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Jan 10 2007 04:50pm
Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 05:36pm)
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i got good ideas lol

I would make it if my fg was higher T_T


Im thinkin of a few ideas for this myself right now rofl. I'm thinkin of a wiz/sanct setup for casters and a +3 nova white/homo setup vs melees.

Would 125% fcr be necessary for melees or could you focus on block/dmg with a frame lower cast?

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Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 05:36pm)
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i got good ideas lol

I would make it if my fg was higher T_T


Im thinkin of a few ideas for this myself right now rofl. I'm thinkin of a wiz/sanct setup for casters and a +3 nova white/homo setup vs melees.

Would 125% fcr be necessary for melees or could you focus on block/dmg with a frame lower cast?



I think 125fcr is a nice bp to aim for at any duel. But I dont think 125 is needed for vs melee. Id go for fhr smile.gif
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Death's Web - this can be used only vs. noobs and chars that are generally weak, the increased amount of poison damage you will deal does not make up for the sacrifice in FCR


I don't agree with this. D web was made for poison necs. If you have a hybrid like yours, ya maybe you have more options with other possible weapons and might choose another, but even on a hybrid D web with a good set up is really nice.

Also, you mention 4 weapons, but there is no mention of a white wand. You know, you "can" get a white wand that looks like this:

White
20% Fcr
3 PnB Skills
2 Bone spear
2 Bone spirit
4 skelly mastery
+ 3 Poison Nova (making it 6 total)
+ 1 Lower resist
+ 1 whatever...

You gotta admit, it's pretty damn sexy if you find one with 3 poison nova and 1 lower resist. Saves you a bunch of points, and gives you 6 nova. Definitely worth mentioning as a possible weapon.


Overall a good guide, but I just feel sometimes your wording is going to leave you open to getting flamed by other people who may not agree with either the guide part, or the dueling part. You should probably leave out the noob calling etc and just write a nice clean guide. but not bad smile.gif
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Jan 11 2007 10:54am
Quote (Trae8 @ Thu, Jan 11 2007, 09:43am)
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Death's Web - this can be used only vs. noobs and chars that are generally weak, the increased amount of poison damage you will deal does not make up for the sacrifice in FCR


I don't agree with this. D web was made for poison necs. If you have a hybrid like yours, ya maybe you have more options with other possible weapons and might choose another, but even on a hybrid D web with a good set up is really nice.

Also, you mention 4 weapons, but there is no mention of a white wand. You know, you "can" get a white wand that looks like this:

White
20% Fcr
3 PnB Skills
2 Bone spear
2 Bone spirit
4 skelly mastery
+ 3 Poison Nova (making it 6 total)
+ 1 Lower resist
+ 1 whatever...

You gotta admit, it's pretty damn sexy if you find one with 3 poison nova and 1 lower resist. Saves you a bunch of points, and gives you 6 nova. Definitely worth mentioning as a possible weapon.


Overall a good guide, but I just feel sometimes your wording is going to leave you open to getting flamed by other people who may not agree with either the guide part, or the dueling part. You should probably leave out the noob calling etc and just write a nice clean guide. but not bad smile.gif


also gives you more powerfull skellies/mages/revives
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Jan 11 2007 10:58am
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Quote (Trae8 @ Thu, Jan 11 2007, 09:43am)
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Death's Web - this can be used only vs. noobs and chars that are generally weak, the increased amount of poison damage you will deal does not make up for the sacrifice in FCR


I don't agree with this. D web was made for poison necs. If you have a hybrid like yours, ya maybe you have more options with other possible weapons and might choose another, but even on a hybrid D web with a good set up is really nice.

Also, you mention 4 weapons, but there is no mention of a white wand. You know, you "can" get a white wand that looks like this:

White
20% Fcr
3 PnB Skills
2 Bone spear
2 Bone spirit
4 skelly mastery
+ 3 Poison Nova (making it 6 total)
+ 1 Lower resist
+ 1 whatever...

You gotta admit, it's pretty damn sexy if you find one with 3 poison nova and 1 lower resist. Saves you a bunch of points, and gives you 6 nova. Definitely worth mentioning as a possible weapon.


Overall a good guide, but I just feel sometimes your wording is going to leave you open to getting flamed by other people who may not agree with either the guide part, or the dueling part. You should probably leave out the noob calling etc and just write a nice clean guide. but not bad smile.gif


also gives you more powerfull skellies/mages/revives


If you got a +3 psn nova splendor too, you would have a pretty high lvl psn nova and could save a ton of skill points.
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Jan 11 2007 11:15am
Quote (MrShowtime @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 12:33pm)
Good guide and a pretty interesting and unique character. Probably alot of fun to play with too.

What's the stats (life/mana/damage/block/etc) of yours?


My first one had over 3.2k life (don't recall correctlly but I have 7 x 4x skillers 1 fhr skiller and 1 plain smile.gif ) and 10 x 20 life scs with adds so I think it might even be more

The last one was made to be block but I still have not used over 300 stat points and dueled with him ever since - I still didn't loose many duels with 1.5k life total smile.gif
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Jan 11 2007 11:17am
Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 01:35pm)
nice guide but how about using mages? because with skels you HAVE to tele on top of them, mages shoot from distance quite well


Mages in general should be a bit weeker in damage absorbtion. To have them both skeles and mages you would have a very weak poison nova. I have 1 point in mages witch is about 28 after all skill bonuses. When I go into serious duelling I get the mages too, but they are actually only good for freezing the opponent. The problem with mages are their "missiles" they are really slow and your opponent should be rather crappy to run into them.
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Jan 11 2007 11:19am
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Quote (MrShowtime @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 12:33pm)
Good guide and a pretty interesting and unique character. Probably alot of fun to play with too.

What's the stats (life/mana/damage/block/etc) of yours?


My first one had over 3.2k life (don't recall correctlly but I have 7 x 4x skillers 1 fhr skiller and 1 plain smile.gif ) and 10 x 20 life scs with adds so I think it might even be more

The last one was made to be block but I still have not used over 300 stat points and dueled with him ever since - I still didn't loose many duels with 1.5k life total smile.gif


What does the most of your dmg? Skellies or psn nova? And are skellies actually capable of doing decent dmg?
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Jan 11 2007 11:20am
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 10:50pm)
Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 05:36pm)
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i got good ideas lol

I would make it if my fg was higher T_T


Im thinkin of a few ideas for this myself right now rofl. I'm thinkin of a wiz/sanct setup for casters and a +3 nova white/homo setup vs melees.

Would 125% fcr be necessary for melees or could you focus on block/dmg with a frame lower cast?



I think 125fcr is a nice bp to aim for at any duel. But I dont think 125 is needed for vs melee. Id go for fhr smile.gif


Depending on what melee opponent. A barb can easily acquire the same frame rate as you. I would never go for less than 125fcr with any necro build. I'm not saying it's immposible to kill someone with 75 fcr, but it's much easier with 125 you are much more mobile and active. 86% FHR is the final bp you can acquire on europe without giving up A LOT of gear. On US it's easier with 30 fhr from .08 Valk and the 30% FCR it adds.
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Jan 11 2007 11:23am
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Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 11:12pm)
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 10:50pm)
Quote (Mischa @ Wed, Jan 10 2007, 05:36pm)
smile.gif

i got good ideas lol

I would make it if my fg was higher T_T


Im thinkin of a few ideas for this myself right now rofl. I'm thinkin of a wiz/sanct setup for casters and a +3 nova white/homo setup vs melees.

Would 125% fcr be necessary for melees or could you focus on block/dmg with a frame lower cast?



I think 125fcr is a nice bp to aim for at any duel. But I dont think 125 is needed for vs melee. Id go for fhr smile.gif


Depending on what melee opponent. A barb can easily acquire the same frame rate as you. I would never go for less than 125fcr with any necro build. I'm not saying it's immposible to kill someone with 75 fcr, but it's much easier with 125 you are much more mobile and active. 86% FHR is the final bp you can acquire on europe without giving up A LOT of gear. On US it's easier with 30 fhr from .08 Valk and the 30% FCR it adds.


Even if barbs could catch you, could't you just im them and laugh while they kill themselves on your skellies?
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