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Sep 11 2011 04:18pm
Conv zealot without dual dreams sound kinda silly tbh...
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Quote (TheBe @ Sep 11 2011 06:18pm)
Conv zealot without dual dreams sound kinda silly tbh...


ive done it and it works just fine at start of ladder

idk why people worry about build too much

freebuild and experment

think of it like this

using same gear found

ar is 2k with fana and some more ed
ar is 1k with conv and less ed but anything element gets super boosted

with fana you hit 3x% of time and slightly faster
with conv you hit 90%+ of time and slightly slower

i wonder ;]
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Sep 15 2011 08:30am
Quote (TheBe @ Sep 11 2011 11:18pm)
Conv zealot without dual dreams sound kinda silly tbh...


conv zealots with auras from items have their own guides.
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Sep 15 2011 09:01am
Quote (Djsem @ Sep 11 2011 06:23pm)
ive done it and it works just fine at start of ladder

idk why people worry about build too much

freebuild and experment

think of it like this

using same gear found

ar is 2k with fana and some more ed
ar is 1k with conv and less ed but anything element gets super boosted

with fana you hit 3x% of time and slightly faster
with conv you hit 90%+ of time and slightly slower

i wonder ;]


If youre only hitting 1k ar without fanat and only 2k ar with it you must be doing something very very wrong
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Sep 15 2011 09:25am
Quote (ranorn @ Sep 15 2011 04:01pm)
If youre only hitting 1k ar without fanat and only 2k ar with it you must be doing something very very wrong


hitting 1-3k ar with conv aura+zeal level 4 isn't unusual, but is enough in this case.
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Sep 15 2011 09:52am
I'd like to see you address some of the ctc items, which I feel makes the best use of conviction. Nice start on this guide.

When I make a pally for fresh reset I max both conviction and fanat as I never know what I'll find. I can say Voice of reason (and arcing vendored wands with 400 light damage ) is very easy to make and works excellent on a new ladder pally w/conviction. Down the road when Ive an oath or grief (insert nicer items here for later season) with fanat and vor/gimmershed/rift (dreams) with the conviction side. Basically phy wep zeal or smite + fanat, hit w and conviction + elemental wep and or ctc's!) This means no immunes to worry about :)


I'm with you on conviction for new pallies, and its super party friendly, but then using "famine" as your general wep doesnt address "cheap and likely assemble-able" upon reset.


since I cant post a "guide" from another forum, I'd encourage you to google " Finding the Inner Voice of Reason" which has some hard numbers on my suggested idea.


example ;


Cheap
N1


gface
Dream
Voice of reason
Rift
Tiamats/Dragonscale/ 45 res elite w/ thunder jewels or sols
Dream Sacred Targe
Headstriker/stormlash/oath/black
Grief pb/botd/death/eth lash
Treachery armor/iron pelt/gbane/smoke/duress/lionheart
Fort/enigma/coh/
Tgods/soe/dungoes/nos coil
Goblin toes or Gores/aldurs/war travs /ik combo
Highlords/cateye/rares

example.

20 holyshield
20 fanat
20 conviction
5 hits zeal
20 res light (if dreamer)
20 sac
ymmv


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Sep 15 2011 10:12am
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Sep 15 2011 04:52pm)
I'd like to see you address some of the ctc items, which I feel makes the best use of conviction.  Nice start on this guide.

When I make a pally for fresh reset I max both conviction and fanat as I never know what I'll find. I can say Voice of reason (and arcing  vendored wands with 400 light damage ) is very easy to make and works excellent on a new ladder pally w/conviction. Down the road when Ive an oath or grief (insert nicer items here for later season) with fanat and vor/gimmershed/rift (dreams) with the conviction side.  Basically phy wep zeal or smite + fanat, hit w and conviction + elemental wep and or ctc's!) This means no immunes to worry about :)


I'm with you on conviction for new pallies, and its super party friendly, but then using "famine" as your general wep doesnt address "cheap and likely assemble-able" upon reset.


since I cant post a "guide" from another forum, I'd encourage you to google " Finding the Inner Voice of Reason" which has some hard numbers on my suggested idea.


example ;


Cheap
N1


gface
Dream
Voice of reason
Rift
Tiamats/Dragonscale/ 45 res elite w/ thunder jewels or sols
Dream Sacred Targe
Headstriker/stormlash/oath
Grief pb/botd/death/eth lash
Treachery armor/iron pelt/gbane/smoke/duress/lionheart
Fort/enigma/coh/
Tgods/soe/dungoes/nos coil
Goblin toes or Gores/aldurs/war travs /ik combo
Highlords/cateye/rares

example.

20 holyshield
20 fanat
20 conviction
5 hits zeal
20 res light (if dreamer)
20 sac
ymmv


hehe yea already made this with rift never tried vor yet.
gonna look at the guide you suggested me thanks a lot Zappy ;)
and the famine thing, thats why i made that cheap hybrid too ^_^
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Sep 15 2011 10:25am
This is like making a Smiter using concentration. Does it help & add damage ? Sure, but not near as as effective as Fanaticism would be.

Does Conviction help ? Sure, but Fanat is 10x better why wouldn't you use it.

If you want a "fun" non CC build this is cute I suppose, but ultimately not very practical ;)
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Nov 6 2011 11:09am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Sep 11 2011 10:05pm)
best build for elemental damage pvm build is probably

phase blade ( 6 x light rbf )
eni
arach
dream shield
dream helm
2 pala 18 fcr amu
ik gloves
fcr amu
raven
ik boots

Or if u wanna use conviction on merc and holy shock as main aura

phase blade ( 6 x light rbf )
eni
dungo
Spirit
Griffon ( 5/5 facet )
2 pala 15 fcr amu
lava gaut
fcr amu
raven + bk
gores


sry but u dont have any clue^^...

nice Guide :).
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