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Sep 9 2011 04:46pm
Quote (AtreyuRocks @ 9 Sep 2011 22:40)
Wow idiots on here.  Great or blade bow all the way.  Fastest wsm period.  A1 merc is only used really for auras and ctc procs.


This. Great bow is a great bow. Blade is ok too with same speed but 0,5 lower damage. I'd never use the other bows
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Sep 9 2011 05:32pm
Quote (TheBe @ Sep 9 2011 05:46pm)
This. Great bow is a great bow. Blade is ok too with same speed but 0,5 lower damage. I'd never use the other bows


Thank you for your responses. I think I am going to start searching for that sup great bow. tvym
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Sep 10 2011 07:26am
Great bow or Diamond bow are the two only real choice, depending on the merc's other items
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Sep 10 2011 07:31am
Uhh the amount of retardation on this forum is beyond normal


With Andys mask 15 iased she gets her breakpoint,no point of all that speed shit;is this the same issue like act 2 mercs you guys are trying to get some ias n speed?Why not then just give her a bow with 4x shaels if you guys want ias so much
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Uhh the amount of retardation on this forum is beyond normal


With Andys mask 15 iased she gets her breakpoint,no point of all that speed shit;is this the same issue like act 2 mercs you guys are trying to get some ias n speed?Why not then just give her a bow with 4x shaels if you guys want ias so much


Shows exactly how clueless you are on the basics...
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Sep 10 2011 08:25am
great bow period
there really is no other choice
she will already do little damage so she might as well fire off as much as possible
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Sep 10 2011 09:02am
This is all wrong anyway


In PvM, use Faith on your Amazon
with an act 2 offensive (might) mercinary from nightmare dif
and make it wear a pride polearm for (concentration)

The merc is important as a subsequant damage dealer for killing big shit in PvM

When Diablo comes out in 8 player Hell and you're by yourself trying to get good xp
You'll be standing there forever smacking him around with a rogue merc at your side


and this shit I keep seeing about WF + Rogue Merc makes me sick
WF = bad minimum damage which in turn = bad average damage, the high max on WF is deceiving. Very deceiving
WF = slow slow slow slow, even with fanat aura effecting you, you'll still fire 2 arrows to the 3 that a GMB Faith would fire
WF = bad AR, 1/6 shots will miss with a WF on top of it's slower IAS. Faith bows with +300% AR do not miss monsters in PvM

Case and Scenario = Faith Bows are reliable damage and due to the superior speed, do inflict just as much damage as a WF
the real bonus you're getting out of using Faith in PvM is that you still get to use a mercinary who can deal damage
as well as walk up front and help your valkyrie tank. This is very important if you are running a bot that you don't want to die
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Sep 10 2011 10:46am
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This is all wrong anyway


In PvM, use Faith on your Amazon
with an act 2 offensive (might) mercinary from nightmare dif
and make it wear a pride polearm for (concentration)

The merc is important as a subsequant damage dealer for killing big shit in PvM

When Diablo comes out in 8 player Hell and you're by yourself trying to get good xp
You'll be standing there forever smacking him around with a rogue merc at your side


and this shit I keep seeing about WF + Rogue Merc makes me sick
WF = bad minimum damage which in turn = bad average damage, the high max on WF is deceiving. Very deceiving
WF = slow slow slow slow, even with fanat aura effecting you, you'll still fire 2 arrows to the 3 that a GMB Faith would fire
WF = bad AR, 1/6 shots will miss with a WF on top of it's slower IAS. Faith bows with +300% AR do not miss monsters in PvM

Case and Scenario = Faith Bows are reliable damage and due to the superior speed, do inflict just as much damage as a WF
the real bonus you're getting out of using Faith in PvM is that you still get to use a mercinary who can deal damage
as well as walk up front and help your valkyrie tank. This is very important if you are running a bot that you don't want to die


Wow you are completely clueless :rofl: You are saying that faith deals more dmg and is faster than wf? :rofl: :thumbsup:

Ok, lets see:
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WF = bad minimum damage which in turn = bad average damage, the high max on WF is deceiving. Very deceiving

330% ed faith gmb: 60-309 (184.5 avg) damage.
Wf with 40% ed jewel @ level 90: 39-546 (292.5 avg) damage.

Wf deals a shitloads more damage! And WF has things like KB which allows you to use LOH gloves instead of kb ones = more damage and res.

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WF = slow slow slow slow, even with fanat aura effecting you, you'll still fire 2 arrows to the 3 that a GMB Faith would fire

Wow this is just retarded.

With faith gmb (level 14 aura) you need 92% ias to hit 7 fpa.

With WF (socketed 15% ias jewel) and faith merc you need 92% ias to hit 7 fpa. Since wf has 35% base ias you only need 60% from gear instead of 92, which makes a HUGE difference. You can use atma's amulet with wf, for example and that adds lots of damage if you are using strafe alot (you can also use things like razortail = lots of mroe dmg).
How is your faith faster?

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WF = bad AR, 1/6 shots will miss with a WF on top of it's slower IAS. Faith bows with +300% AR do not miss monsters in PvM

you really are an idiot if you have so low ar on a physical damage bowazon. With full dext, fana, penetrate, damage charms etc you shouldn't have to worry about your ar.

Play the game yourself and you might learn the very basics.

This post was edited by TheBe on Sep 10 2011 11:00am
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Sep 10 2011 10:52am
greath bow got best -wsm and you got 100% perf ias breakpoint on your merc with 45/120 helm with the fana aura from faith [ if 15]
got one by myself it works great but ain't use it atm so its for sale on non ladder eu if you'r interested :p
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Sep 10 2011 10:55am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ 10 Sep 2011 17:02)
This is all wrong anyway


In PvM, use Faith on your Amazon
with an act 2 offensive (might) mercinary from nightmare dif
and make it wear a pride polearm for (concentration)

The merc is important as a subsequant damage dealer for killing big shit in PvM

When Diablo comes out in 8 player Hell and you're by yourself trying to get good xp
You'll be standing there forever smacking him around with a rogue merc at your side


and this shit I keep seeing about WF + Rogue Merc makes me sick
WF = bad minimum damage which in turn = bad average damage, the high max on WF is deceiving. Very deceiving
WF = slow slow slow slow, even with fanat aura effecting you, you'll still fire 2 arrows to the 3 that a GMB Faith would fire
WF = bad AR, 1/6 shots will miss with a WF on top of it's slower IAS. Faith bows with +300% AR do not miss monsters in PvM

Case and Scenario = Faith Bows are reliable damage and due to the superior speed, do inflict just as much damage as a WF
the real bonus you're getting out of using Faith in PvM is that you still get to use a mercinary who can deal damage
as well as walk up front and help your valkyrie tank. This is very important if you are running a bot that you don't want to die


Are you trolling?
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