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Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 07:28pm)
I've thought about it, but claw mastery makes things much more complicated. There's the AR bonus, for example. And if you want to take AR into account, you have to take defense into account as well, which depends on who you're dueling.


well mainly I would just like to see the dmg increase in a suw/feral or runic setup. I am assuming its a little less dmg than venom but I think that the ar boost + the extra crit strike might make it worthwhile.
if the damage difference is small, i would say that the ar/crit strike boost is > the small dmg because you would hit more often
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Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 03:34pm)
you might forget that a necro is one of the hardest enemies for a sin
maxing venom is more useful than maxing cm for e.g a hybsin


I would take max MB over max Venom versus a necro any day.
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im still maxing it....
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Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 09:34pm)
you might forget that a necro is one of the hardest enemies for a sin
maxing venom is more useful than maxing cm for e.g a hybsin


ow > nec
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I would take max MB over max Venom versus a necro any day.


then whirl is rather useless anyway and you should go full trapper instead

Quote (Krocodile @ 11 Jul 2010 21:36)
ow > nec


y sure :facepalm:
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I would take max MB over max Venom versus a necro any day.


this. plus the venom boost is nearly out of the question because ow helps more than 80 psn dmg. furthermore when you do break the armor then the extra phys dmg >

a sin will never beat a necro on simply 80 more psn dmg.

Quote (Krocodile @ Jul 11 2010 07:36pm)
ow > nec


no. just to justify what im saying so im different from this guy... the phys dmg and ow would help more than an EXTRA 80 venom although not using venom at all is retarded.

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 11 2010 03:36pm)
im still maxing it....


I expected nothing less.


Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 03:37pm)
then whirl is rather useless anyway and you should go full trapper instead


Not really, at least versus non-block nec. Triwhirl will break bone armor pretty quick, and then you should be doing plenty of damage with Suwayyah/Feral/Highlord's build.
And also, OW does a lot as-is.

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I expected nothing less.




Not really, at least versus non-block nec. Triwhirl will break bone armor pretty quick, and then you should be doing plenty of damage with Suwayyah/Feral/Highlord's build.


no it blows hard
65 fcr trapper build with chaos sucks lol
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Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 03:40pm)
no it blows hard
65 fcr trapper build with chaos sucks lol


Try it.
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Quote (drt1245 @ 11 Jul 2010 21:40)
Try it.


i tried every sin build i can imagine
1k whirl dmg, low ar, 65 fcr is nothing but shit
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