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May 5 2010 01:37pm
Quote (Denilson @ 5 May 2010 20:21)
Didn't read all of it but what I got to comment on it the Fhr.



In my opinion, you do not need 152fhr vs Barbs but rather against 163fcr Windys. Good Windys will crush you without cbf/152fhr. Remember, this is my experience/opinion so I'd like a constructive reply and no flaming.


even 56 is fine vs windys

you wsg so often vs them anyway
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May 5 2010 01:41pm
when it comes too fhr i have gona all away from 152 fhr. Only nice in 1v1 vs assa with tg and coa VexVex vs fb sins. But wtf, rly waste of space...

I use 56fhr with mb eq on 99realm, and 86fhr on eu(cause shadow dancer on eu). 56fhr works good vs all, but 86 is a advantage when duelling in tvts wich often have barb/assa.... When it comes too dudus i agree some with tudey, but i know a bug here wich makes u shot spear that summons dont block and directly dmg dudu even if his zoo is close, so if u wanna outtank ele without removing summons so first it helps with 152fhr duall spirit. But mostly frw is better than fhr after my point of view...

I dident read anything else, but i going too do after pee xD
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May 5 2010 01:42pm
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when it comes too fhr i have gona all away from 152 fhr. Only nice in 1v1 vs assa with tg and coa VexVex vs fb sins. But wtf, rly waste of space...

I use 56fhr with mb eq on 99realm, and 86fhr on eu(cause shadow dancer on eu). 56fhr works good vs all, but 86 is a advantage when duelling in tvts wich often have barb/assa.... When it comes too dudus i agree some with tudey, but i know a bug here wich makes u shot spear that summons dont block and directly dmg dudu even if his zoo is close, so if u wanna outtank ele without removing summons so first it helps with 152fhr duall spirit. But mostly frw is better than fhr after my point of view...

I dident read anything else, but i going too do after pee xD


summon ignoring doesnt really work vs druid, he has too many summons and they aint stacked properly for the bug to work

either way, you rather want higher spear damage to fhrlock the druid
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May 5 2010 01:43pm
Quote (Tails chao @ May 5 2010 07:37pm)
even 56 is fine vs windys

you wsg so often vs them anyway


i dont wsg vs dudus, cause makes me selfsync, dno if its cause of realm or cause of 11 year old pc, but i walk much so frw is gz here... Frw, dmg, 1 raven, dr is the important adds here...
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May 5 2010 01:44pm
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summon ignoring doesnt really work vs druid, he has too many summons and they aint stacked properly for the bug to work

either way, you rather want higher spear damage to fhrlock the druid


it works often, but its not as ez as vs necs...
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May 5 2010 01:45pm
Quote (gel87 @ 5 May 2010 22:44)
it works often, but its not as ez as vs necs...


it doesnt really work vs druids tbh :s
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May 5 2010 01:46pm
Quote (tudey @ May 5 2010 07:45pm)
it doesnt really work vs druids tbh :s


yesh it does xD but now i will read the guide xD
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May 5 2010 01:48pm
Quote (gel87 @ 5 May 2010 20:41)
when it comes too fhr i have gona all away from 152 fhr. Only nice in 1v1 vs assa with tg and coa VexVex vs fb sins. But wtf, rly waste of space...

I use 56fhr with mb eq on 99realm, and 86fhr on eu(cause shadow dancer on eu). 56fhr works good vs all, but 86 is a advantage when duelling in tvts wich often have barb/assa.... When it comes too dudus i agree some with tudey, but i know a bug here wich makes u shot spear that summons dont block and directly dmg dudu even if his zoo is close, so if u wanna outtank ele without removing summons so first it helps with 152fhr duall spirit. But mostly frw is better than fhr after my point of view...

I dident read anything else, but i going too do after pee xD


I prefer 86 fhr vs sins, especially vs fbsins.

Quote (gel87 @ 5 May 2010 20:43)
i dont wsg vs dudus, cause makes me selfsync, dno if its cause of realm or cause of 11 year old pc, but i walk much so frw is gz here... Frw, dmg, 1 raven, dr is the important adds here...


its either the realm or the way you're doing it (running into walls or wsging north and getting obstructed by the druid or w/e), I can still play d2 with no lag issues on my 10~ year old pc.

This post was edited by Tails chao on May 5 2010 01:49pm
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May 5 2010 01:51pm
Quote (tudey @ 5 May 2010 21:31)
152 is horrible against windies, its useless and you just drop a lot of your damage for it, and also losing 20% abs from raven so hurricane hits quite a bit more, which over time is pretty significant
even 56fhr is fine against druids


I never said anything about removing Raven, even said that you need cbf. As for 152fhr, not at all needed vs 99fcr dudus but vs a good 163fcr windy I'd recommend it.

This post was edited by Denilson on May 5 2010 01:52pm
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May 5 2010 01:53pm
Quote (Denilson @ 5 May 2010 20:51)
I never said anything about removing Raven, even said that you need cbf. As for 152fhr, not at all needed vs 99fcr dudus but vs a good 163fcr windy I'd recommend it.


we obviously mean that 152 fhr is not needed vs good windys.

Why would we say that "152 fhr is not needed vs bad windys"? That's just stupid.

This post was edited by Tails chao on May 5 2010 01:53pm
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