Quote (BillyGnosis @ 9 Feb 2010 11:53)

Most pubs are not gm tho, atleast on east(or at least any game I bloody join).

Quote (Tails chao @ Feb 9 2010 06:54am)

Right, hence the part where I said Hybrids are better in solo pubs.

Join any form of gm game (or even a bm pub so long as you're teaming) and a Trapper is much much better.

Quote (BillyGnosis @ 9 Feb 2010 11:58)

True.

If he's open to opinions, I'd say make a wof kicker or wof hybrid. Wouldn't as well as other assin but would be fun.

Quote (Tails chao @ Feb 9 2010 07:00am)

wof kickers aren't too great in pubs either though, wof/ww is ok but its still just a weaker ghost after all.

Quote (tudey @ Feb 9 2010 10:13am)

gt lool

Quote (Ziecheik @ Feb 9 2010 06:16pm)

exactly my thoughts.
he almost sounds like he knows what he is talking about.. but ya.

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Greater Talons versus Runic Talons

      Runic Talons have a higher base damage than GT's, damage = good, so people tend to use Runics. But, let's take a closer look at the actual difference between the two:

      We have to following:
          o Both claws with a 350% ED Chaos runeword in them.
          o Level 30 Claw Mastery (151% ED)
          o 120 Strength
          o 120 Dexterity

      The formulas to calculate a claw's damage (on-screen) are the following:
          o Statbonus: ([Dexterity x 0.0075] + [Strength x 0.0075] + 1)
          o Minimal Damage: {((Statbonus) + (%Enhanced Damage/100)) x Min-dmg on Weapon}
          o Maximal Damage: {(([Dex x 0.0075] + [Str x 0.0075] + 1) + (%Enhanced Damage)) x Max-dmg on Weapon}

      Lets start with the Greater Talon:
          o Min-dmg on Weapon: (21 * (3.5+1)) = 94,5 = 94
          o Max-dmg on Weapon: (35 * (3.5+1)) = 157,5 = 157
          o Statbonus: ([120 x 0.0075] + [120 x 0.0075] + 1) = 2.8
          o Minimal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 94} = 405,14 = 405
          o Maximal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 35} = 676,67 = 676
      So, this greater talon has a total damage of 405 - 676. That is an average of; (405+676)/2 = 540,5

      Lets move on with a Runic Talon:
          o Min-dmg on Weapon: (24 * (3.5+1)) = 108
          o Max-dmg on Weapon: (44 * (3.5+1)) = 198
          o Statbonus: ([120 x 0.0075] + [120 x 0.0075] + 1) = 2.8
          o Minimal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 108} = 465,48 = 465
          o Maximal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 198} = 853,38 = 863
      This runic has a total damage of 465 - 863. That is an average of; (465+863)/2 = 664

      Woah, so a runic has 123,5 more average damage?! Yes, too bad that is without the PvP penalty. After this penalty, the difference is only; (123,5*0,17) = 20,99 = 21. Add anoter 50% Damage reduction and we have a difference of only 10 damage.

      The damage difference between greater talons and runic talons is pathetic, on top of that, a runic talon requires way more strength and dexterity. This means that a greater talon is superior to a runic because it gives you way more options of gear swapping while still staying at base strength/dexterity.

      All in all: Use a greater talon, not a runic! (well, ok, unless you dont have any problem-giving gear-swaps and you'll be able to use runics with base str/dex anyway)

Quote (xRAZORSxManu @ 10 Feb 2010 21:48)

gt = fastest claw type with lowest req's
rt = wow, have fun with ur... + 10 dmg ?



credits go to Xepo

suwwayah = hf with wsb
zb suwwayah = hf spending 15k+ fg

Quote (Tails chao @ Feb 10 2010 09:53pm)

uh +10 /w damage boosts, its free damage, Xepo's guide is outdated as shit.

what's wrong with wsm bugging? its a good damage boost.

Quote (xRAZORSxManu @ 10 Feb 2010 21:57)

well, if ur not getting anoyed by it...

as hybsin i don't rly care about that low phys dmg boosts, venom/ow are the main ww-dmg-sources