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Jan 13 2010 03:17pm
Hm, didnt answer to the one who made this topic.

Anyway. I did read your writing, but still whitstans with sur is imo better.
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Jan 13 2010 03:24pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ 13 Jan 2010 20:29)
To help thouse gzz baba ownage soso out there, here is my topic :P

sur yes! for max mana boost
whinstans yes, for max mana boost
but would it not be logic to use a spirit, if your in surch of max mana boost?
and wtf, spirit+block is noobborn!

To start, the conclusion :P
gerke shild is the protector of the es block sorc
gerke shild = unlimted fhr (exept vs smite)
gerke shild = 97% es sorc
gerke shild = your only defend vs ow-psn
gerke shild = +100@resist
gerke shild >+400 total life
(and thats are the stats on a no block sorc, they also get this huge benefits)
gerke shild = 74% block! (24%block, whitout stating dex/20x dex for max block)

gerke shild soc -15req 4repl life 9dex jewel

Defense: 221-268 (varies)(Base Defense: 68-78)
Required Level: 44
Required Strength: 133, whit a jewel, its 114str
Chance to Block: Pal: 84%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 79%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 74%
Durability: 172
Paladin Smite Damage: 10 To 17
+180-240% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+30% Increased Chance of Blocking
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
Replenish Life +15
Damage Reduced By 11-16 (varies)
Magic Damage Reduced By 14-18 (varies)

(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)


why is it so gzzz? why do you need dr-mdr-repl life?
i try explain !

1)+2% es
someone attacks you whit 10k (arround avarge pvp damage)
10.000/6pvp penalty *0.05(es) = 83life lost
83life lost -(18mdr)= 65 life lost
makes you life 83/65= 28% more effective (like 28% more life vs 10k elemental attack or magic attack)
add 15repl life / add mdr-dr overflow(its complicated, but adds another 20-30% bonus to you total dr-mdr(i testet it)
and your life becomes even more effective
(a total +/-40% bonus to life protection, from just a shild)
(i call that +40% sometimes +2% es / 97% es sorc)there is no name for it!
40%*0.05es=2% es

2) the terible things ow+psn attack do to your life (byebye life in +/-10 seconds)
(whit arround 65dr, its posible to completely have no trobles whit ow+psn baba/ama)
(whit 16 dr+18mdr just from the shild, you have no trobles at all vs a gt claw ww attack/mind blast)
no trobles means: you not loose any life vs ow+psn, when your at 1 life = immortal = imune
more details?:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34840334&f=87

3) mana regeneration :P the basic advantage of es, if we not have this, we all would make a vita sorc!
avarage sorc have arround 150mana/sec from lvl1 warmth (fire skiller bild even +/-200mana/sec)
+/-350mana/sec from lvl1 warmth+insight on switch
+/-500mana/sec from max warmth+insight on switch
(google a mana regen calculator to know your exact numbers, couse it depend on sks/total mana)
1k life, allows to regenerate 1k/0.05(es)*0.75telekenisis = 15k mana, before you die (whitout dr-mdr-repl life)
so more dr-mdr-repllife, allows you to regen more mana before you die
what have it for use to regen mana, if your life is gone?

4)resist
the 18mdr, it do more then +70all resist
+30 normal@resist =+100@resist
more details: see link above!

5) fhr
dr+mdr=nn fhr vs normal attack (exept stunning attack like smite)
if you not loose arround 6,3% of your total life ever, fhr becomes useless, like vs a hammer.
15k hammer 6.3%=1984 life needed, or run into fhr motion vs hammer
(15k/6pvp*0.05es/6.3%*100%)
18mdr gerke+10mdr from your armor?=28mdr = 1540life needed, and you wil never ever run into fhr motion :P
((15k/6pvp*0.05es)-28mdr)/6.3%*100%
the more dr-mdr, the lower life is needed for never needing fhr!

conclusion :P
gerke shild is the protector of the es block sorc
gerke shild = unlimted fhr (exept vs smite)
gerke shild = 97% es sorc
gerke shild = your only defend vs ow-psn
gerke shild = +100@resist
gerke shild >+400 total life
(and thats are the stats on a no block sorc, they also get this huge benefits)
gerke shild = 74% block!


I'm not going to say anything about gerke, since I didn't read your full wall of text. Do you know why? Because of your horrible english. Whit and With is total different things, troble isn't a word, couse isn't a word, shild isn't a word... I could countinue pretty long. Your text is full of typos. Your arguments are difficult to understand, since they aren't proper sentences. Also, horrible english eats reliability...
And about your math. It looks like right, but it isn't. Don't ever talk about 97% or 100% es, that doesn't exist. Gerke shield doesn't allow 97% ES. Yes, 97% would reduce the damage taken from hitpoints, but would increase the damage taken to mana, which it doesn't do. So don't use 97% or 100% ES terms please...
Also, this shield works only on "immortal" sorc. And that is horrible char anyway since you can't deal any dmg. It might kill noob pubs with half ik set, but not anything better...

This post was edited by Dorieus on Jan 13 2010 03:26pm
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Jan 13 2010 03:44pm
Quote (Dorieus @ Jan 13 2010 09:24pm)
I'm not going to say anything about gerke, since I didn't read your full wall of text. Do you know why? Because of your horrible english. Whit and With is total different things, troble isn't a word, couse isn't a word, shild isn't a word... I could countinue pretty long. Your text is full of typos. Your arguments are difficult to understand, since they aren't proper sentences. Also, horrible english eats reliability...
And about your math. It looks like right, but it isn't. Don't ever talk about 97% or 100% es, that doesn't exist. Gerke shield doesn't allow 97% ES. Yes, 97% would reduce the damage taken from hitpoints, but would increase the damage taken to mana, which it doesn't do. So don't use 97% or 100% ES terms please...
Also, this shield works only on "immortal" sorc. And that is horrible char anyway since you can't deal any dmg. It might kill noob pubs with half ik set, but not anything better...


i am from europe, not from USA, so grammer, who cares!

i tested this shild, on more sorces, not only on the immortal sorc.

like 80repl life 15dr 30mdr 105fcr 9k fireball 4.5k mana sorc (no block)
and realy, psn-ow baba had big troble slaying this sorc
(and thats not that i dodge like a chikken)
couse i make it a sport, to take hits :P escape from death, and start full after 10second again.

why is that a sport? couse owning people bye killing them fast over and over again, until they zorb or leave game, make me borred,
this why i have 100 times more fun!
tanking them, also makes me dont care, my sorc can be absorbed
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Jan 13 2010 03:58pm
seriously guys this shield rapes!
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Jan 13 2010 04:23pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ 13 Jan 2010 22:44)
i am from europe, not from USA, so grammer, who cares!

i tested this shild, on more sorces, not only on the immortal sorc.

like 80repl life 15dr 30mdr 105fcr 9k fireball 4.5k mana sorc (no block)
and realy, psn-ow baba had big troble slaying this sorc
(and thats not that i dodge like a chikken)
couse i make it a sport, to take hits :P escape from death, and start full after 10second again.

why is that a sport? couse owning people bye killing them fast over and over again, until they zorb or leave game, make me borred,
this why i have 100 times more fun!
tanking them, also makes me dont care, my sorc can be absorbed


I'm not American either, I'm European like you, but no, I'm not from UK. I know my english ain't perfect, but it is UNDERSTANDABLE, unlike yours muggling. It is pain in ass to read your text, especially if you write more than 2 lines... So.. Get back to school before you try to school us... (btw, it is grammar, and I think >80% of people DOES care...)

This post was edited by Dorieus on Jan 13 2010 04:30pm
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Jan 13 2010 04:27pm
Whitstans Sigons or SS for Es
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Jan 13 2010 04:55pm
Quote (Dorieus @ Jan 13 2010 10:23pm)
I'm not American either, I'm European like you, but no, I'm not from UK. I know my english ain't perfect, but it is UNDERSTANDABLE, unlike yours muggling. It is pain in ass to read your text, especially if you write more than 2 lines... So.. Get back to school before you try to school us... (btw, it is grammar, and I think >80% of people DOES care...)


mebe some people care,

but, this topic is about sorc power shilds!
not about grammer, not about USA
and especialy not about shool (wtf you wrote school, wtf german?)

tellling me:
go back to school
your muggling
says something about your child age, not about mine
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Jan 13 2010 04:57pm
Crafted Round Shield > Whitstan's on "regular" 95% ES Sorcs...

Gerke's is damn nice to wear, but ImO without a concrete build around it (like yours) it cannot keep up with both Whitsan's or Craft.
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Jan 13 2010 04:57pm
Why does everything in this world report to USA ?
Fat asses !
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Jan 13 2010 05:00pm
Quote (quicksand @ 14 Jan 2010 00:57)
Why does everything in this world report to USA ?
Fat asses !

wat?
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