Ye, i edited after few min because of course qlvl affect alvl as you said.
Look at the bottom of my last post also

I just confused because german affixes calculator which most ppl seems to use gives me other result than my own calculations ^^


This post was edited by kukiFBK on Nov 12 2009 08:07am

ImO the calculation as you did it is the right one.
Had not yet included chances of only 2 suffixes etc. but I got the exact same so far.

ImO affix generators (I used the one on a German site) do either not include the rule that same group - affixes cannot spawn again or completely ignore the fact that you HAVE to calculate probability for 2,3,4 affixes and inbetween these of 2 suffixes of 2 affixes in total, 2 suffixes of 3 affixes total or 2 suffixes of 4 affixes total...

This post was edited by aneas on Nov 12 2009 08:09am

Just use the affix calculator?

It does crafted items too

i n d i a b l o . d e

It is right, but will always calculate total odds, not for the 2 only affixes.

The simple answer is that it IS the chance of getting them both x 0.4 for 40% chance of only 2 affixes.



This post was edited by AyeCaramba on Nov 12 2009 08:12am

Used that exact calc, but I came up with different results AND
at one point I could even see from the description on the site that it does not work correctly (2x 1:14 probabilities when it should be 1:14 and 1:13 rly)...

this

Well, maybe
Please if possible finish your calculations not looking on mine to check if i didn't any mistake ^^
If no one will post something convicting me that german calc is ok i'll sent you fg in 30 min for your help


Problem is that it probably shows wrong numbers which i'm trying to check right now ^^


I did calculations for only 2 and for 2-4 (but 2 which are needed at least) and none was same as from calc.
Looks like it doesn't care about groups and maybe even not for other detailed calculations

This post was edited by kukiFBK on Nov 12 2009 08:16am

Try this:

Use our ilvl of 21 + Light Belt

Use suffixes only:

Psn length reduced by 25
Self-repair

Then scroll up to check with what numbers the site calculates, for me it showed 1:17 twice, which, if further calculations are done with these numbers as well, seems to be the root of the different outcomes.
There should not be 2x 1:17, but 1x 1:17 and 1x 1:(17-3)

Ofc this is only important if those are the exact numbers that calc uses to go on.

EDIT:

Don't need FG^^ was nice to do something else instead of learning/typing my essays^^

This post was edited by aneas on Nov 12 2009 08:18am

Ye, i noticed this, but it can show separate values and calculating it together only after clicking "Calculate total chance".
Anyway looks like it shows bad results ^^


Weird calculations always are funny Thanks a lot then

Note to myself: not using german calc for checking chances ^^

This post was edited by kukiFBK on Nov 12 2009 08:21am

Ok, did my calculation now for 2 affixes ONLY and got the same results.
So I think we are right there, but then again, I am not a Math student.. I'm more into Literature etc. so I COULD be wrong as well^^

EDIT: + Faelwen can stop fakeafking now^^ or post his results if he has any


This post was edited by aneas on Nov 12 2009 08:24am

This is just a continuation of the other thread: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=37057483&f=87

Affix Tables: http://diablo3.in-game.de/spiel/expansion/itemdb/affix_chances_crafted.php?lang=en&version=lod&patch=111&type=belt&item=Light+Belt&sortby=&mlvl=0&qlvl=7&ilvl=21
(delete the hyphen (-) manually)

At ilvl 21, the chances of 1/2/3/4 affixes are 40/20/20/20 (%).

Affixes desired
(S) "of Stability" (group 18, level 18, levelreq 13, freq. 4): +24% Faster Hit Recovery
(S) "of Regeneration" (group 19, level 10, levelreq 7, freq. 4): Replenish Life +(3 to 5)

Required Level (max): 26/29/32/35

IFF this is meant for level 29, you should not include 3 or 4 affixes, as you could not use the belt if it generated +24% FHR (or any levelreq 11+ affix for that matter).
The inDiablo affix calculator returns the total chance of generating the affixes desired, be it alone (exactly 2 suffixes) or as part of 3 or 4 affixes. It is no mind-reader.

Exactly 2 affixes (20%)
Each pick: 50% chance of generating a suffix. IIRC, the group of any chosen affix is simply frozen out on subsequent picks.

If an affix from group 18 (freq. sum = 12) is chosen first, the suffix freq. sum for the second pick is 39 (51-12).
If an affix from group 19 (freq. sum = 4) is chosen first, the suffix freq. sum for the second pick is 47 (51-4).

Chance = (1/5)*(1/2)^2 *{(4/51)*(4/39) + (4/51)*(4/47)} ~ 0.0736%

Should be accurate enough, unless I missed something.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Nov 12 2009 08:33am