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Oct 1 2009 09:08pm
Quote (CeUnspoken @ Thu, Oct 1 2009, 11:07pm)
Interesting build
i've always wanted to make one
instead i made a melee sorc
I would love to see a dueling video or screen shot of ur zon


Will post one as soon as im finished fine tuning everything.
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Oct 1 2009 09:21pm
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Will post one as soon as im finished fine tuning everything.


Word, keep me posted please. I love collecting noncookie-cutter builds :P
And I'm not sure on this either, someone with better knowledge and correct me, but I think wih a Gris caddy you can achieve 4 fpa?
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Quote (CompanyOfThree @ Thu, Oct 1 2009, 11:21pm)
Word, keep me posted please. I love collecting noncookie-cutter builds :P
And I'm not sure on this either, someone with better knowledge and correct me, but I think wih a Gris caddy you can achieve 4 fpa?


Thats in wolf form not bear form. Bear form is much slower.
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not mentioned as an option but on HC I use a botd war spike over the grief ( I have a grief too, and yes I know grief hits harder). This saves tons of points in str and dex and adds massive leaching which up your tankage to another level. For anyone considered some runs for pvm on this build it's a very worthy wep. It like a greif is a 6fpa (with 12 oias)

rawr

This build can be made 100% tppk immune for hc players which is why I use this pvm.
proof here
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=34455414&f=313&st=40


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 6 2009 09:45am
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Tue, Oct 6 2009, 11:38am)
not mentioned as an option but on HC I use a botd war spike over the grief. This saves tons of points in str and dex and adds massive leaching which up your tankage to another level. For anyone considered some runs for pvm on this build it's a very worthy wep. It like a greif is a 6fpa (with 12 oias)

rawr

This build can be made 100% tppk immune for hc players which is why I use this pvm.
proof here
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=34455414&f=313&st=40
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/Master_Zappy/Screenshot329.jpg


Very nice. Thanks for posting this :)
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Oct 6 2009 09:59am
A couple big problems that will arise are (if this is for PvP):

1. Runspeed
2. Attack damage (you are using your regular attack)

Without fort your damage will be far too low, and without enigma your runspeed is terrible. Doomz would be a nice addition but then you would have troubles with attack speed & damage.

I guess using frw/max dmg charms, a couple 451's, and the rest being max/ar/life would help... but it'd be spending way too much on a test-build.

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A couple big problems that will arise are (if this is for PvP):

1. Runspeed
2. Attack damage (you are using your regular attack)

Without fort your damage will be far too low, and without enigma your runspeed is terrible. Doomz would be a nice addition but then you would have troubles with attack speed & damage.

I guess using frw/max dmg charms, a couple 451's, and the rest being max/ar/life would help... but it'd be spending way too much on a test-build.



runspeed, they come to you, but this isnt anything a few frw charms wont fix or a harmony bow if you want. This is an issue all shifters deal with.

Attack damage = appx 6K avg damage taking into account crit. Plenty enough. This char outtanks any other build possible. You will have decent defense, max block, max res+50% dr 55-60% dodge and avoiding all attacks including things like hammers and nado and more effective life then any other build.

This isnt the most dominating pvp build, but they hold their own fairly well. Dont forget massive life.!

Vs hammers, and casters where your res will be adequate you can throw an ebotd gpa for apprx 12-15K max damage at range 5 on a 9fpa , same speed as conc/zerk barbs on 1h , faster then them on 2h's (10fpa)

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 6 2009 10:18am
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runspeed, they come to you, but this isnt anything a few frw charms wont fix or a harmony bow if you want. This is an issue all shifters deal with.

Attack damage = appx 6K avg damage taking into account crit. Plenty enough. This char outtanks any other build possible. You will have decent defense, max block, max res+50% dr 55-60% dodge and avoiding all attacks including things like hammers and nado and more effective life then any other build.


This :P
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Tue, Oct 6 2009, 11:11am)
runspeed, they come to you, but this isnt anything a few frw charms wont fix or a harmony bow if you want. This is an issue all shifters deal with.

Attack damage = appx 6K avg damage taking into account crit. Plenty enough. This char outtanks any other build possible. You will have decent defense, max block, max res+50% dr 55-60% dodge and avoiding all attacks including things like hammers and nado and more effective life then any other build.

This isnt the most dominating pvp build, but they hold their own fairly well. Dont forget massive life.!

Vs hammers, and casters where your res will be adequate you can throw an ebotd gpa for apprx 12-15K max damage at range 5 on a 9fpa , same speed as conc/zerk barbs on 1h , faster then them on 2h's (10fpa)


Interesting... Anything else you would change for verse casters besides the weapon?
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