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Sep 30 2009 06:21pm
Quote (Ancalagon @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:14pm)
1. duress > gangel
lionheart> gangel
smoke> ganel


This build focuses on capped resistances. That is why it is chosen. Duress, Lionheart, Smoke are good items but for this build (with entire equipment and skill point allocation) it just isn't the best armor to equip.

As you said If I equipped Smoke I wouldn't need a level 21 conviction, but then we loose capped resistances. There are many different routes to take, and often times when you replace one item you end up changing other items to. This is but one way to go-- wearing GAngel is one of those ways not THE way.

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Sep 30 2009 06:24pm
Quote (thana @ Thu, Oct 1 2009, 01:21am)
This build focuses on capped resistances. That is why it is chosen. Duress, Lionheart, Smoke are good items but for this build (with entire equipment and skill point allocation)  it just isn't the best armor to equip.


gangel is no armor for a paladin.. the maxresi don't relly help the +1allskill and block don't offer as much as other things and one will have to reach the maxres without the armor on the first place, which means that other good slots are filled up to make up for the lacks of this armor...

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Sep 30 2009 06:24pm
Why wear Dwarf star? You have 95% fire resist, so your taking 50/1000 damage. Dwarf star absorbs 15% of that damage... so your taking 42.5/1000 damage. I hardly seeing reducing your overall fire damage by .75% worth it? I'd rather take a 2nd raves or dex/str ring over that ring.
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Sep 30 2009 06:31pm
Quote (Worseley @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:24pm)
Why wear Dwarf star?  You have 95% fire resist, so your taking 50/1000 damage.  Dwarf star absorbs 15% of that damage... so your taking 42.5/1000 damage.  I hardly seeing reducing your overall fire damage by .75% worth it?  I'd rather take a 2nd raves or dex/str ring over that ring.


It seems I mixed up the order in which absorption takes place, I better ring would be like the one you mentioned. Thank you for the input.

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Sep 30 2009 06:38pm
Yeah, the same can be said with Tgods compared to Dungos... the absorbtion is trivial... and your wasting 5 max light
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Sep 30 2009 06:38pm
Quote (Ancalagon @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:24pm)
gangel is no armor for a paladin.. the maxresi don't relly help the +1allskill and block don't offer as much as other things and one will have to reach the maxres without the armor on the first place, which means that other good slots are filled up to make up for the lacks of this armor...


As I said in the guide, only one slot is used for maxed capped resistances, a 4 p diamond shield. That is why I wrote of mods of other items (such as kiras and smoke and lionheart) that increase resistances. You said that 20% increased chance of blocking isn't a significant mod, but it basically means you have to put 50 less points in dexterity, that is HUGE . It means you can put 50 more points in life, which is equal to 150 life. In addition, it is a unique item, not a runeword, therefore you can socket it with anything you want, like a p Ruby which adds 38 life. These two mods add +188 to life, which is pretty damn colse to the mods of Lionheart, yet it has +max resistances, +skill.

You said having capped rez isnt important, but its like saying "I only want 55% resistances in Uber Tristram, 75% isn't worth it."
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Sep 30 2009 06:46pm
Quote (Worseley @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:38pm)
Yeah, the same can be said with Tgods compared to Dungos... the absorbtion is trivial... and your wasting 5 max light


TGods is a little different because it adds the same life as vergundos (in the form of +20 str and +20 vit). TGods isn't absorb % its a variable absorb. Which means it will absorb 20 lighting damage after resistances, variable absorb is more important with higher resistances than % absorb. In addition Stormlash has +9 Lightning absorb. With these two items you get 29 absorb Lightning, which in most cases heals you.
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Sep 30 2009 06:52pm
Quote (thana @ Thu, Oct 1 2009, 01:38am)
As I said in the guide, only one slot is used for maxed capped resistances, a 4 p diamond shield. That is why I wrote of mods of other items (such as kiras and smoke and lionheart) that increase resistances. You said that 20% increased chance of blocking isn't a significant mod, but it basically means you have to put 50 less points in dexterity, that isHUGE.  It means you can put 50 more points in life, which is equal to 150 life. In addition, it is a unique item, not a runeword, therefore you can socket it with anything you want, like a p Ruby which adds 38 life. These two mods add +188 to life, which is pretty damn colse to the mods of Lionheart, yet it has +max resistances, +skill.

You said having capped rez isnt important, but its like saying "I only want 55% resistances in Uber Tristram, 75% isn't worth it."

this answer shows that you don't really know what you're talking about
gangel does not give you 50 stats on a paladin.. holy shield has +% blocking

but okay simple example:
lvl 90 char
lvl 20 hs(+35% chance to block)
sacred targe aka 60 baseblock

133dex with gangel
158dex without gangel

-> 25 difference= 75 hp
so actually 113 with a pruby
if we use the skill, we're at 145 hp

problem:
lionheart offers 96 stats and 30% prisma so actually 288 hp+prisma


30 anya+116-121 shield+treachery62=208-213

no resis from rings
no resis from ammy
no resis from belt
no resis from shoes

so we're missing 87 additional prisma for full resis with gangel



not to mention that a cat's does not offer 30 ias.....

This post was edited by Ancalagon on Sep 30 2009 06:53pm
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Sep 30 2009 07:09pm
Well using Lionsheart is a entirely different build. One is going towards damage reduction, the other is more of a typical smiter build.

Personally I'd throw in Dungos to help with the fhr, i'd forget throwing in the 20pts into max fire/cold so when you pickup exile later you'll still have those skills. Also no point in taking poison past 90% really.

This is a cheap smiter build without all the high runewords but you also want to be able to convert him as new better gear comes along. Wasting skill points isnt going to help you (unless there are skill/stat redistribution on 1.13)
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Sep 30 2009 07:10pm
Quote (Mcchickens @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 09:36pm)
Sticky, every kid poor kid wants to uber. Nice work.

In the ammy section i think you meant fanat, not viction.


multi imo



nice job for the guide

but... i still dont understand for the 20 conv, you allready have enough res to still have your 75-95 all res

mine still has 80 to fire and res with max fana

cheap build like urs, but i only use coh and treachery

black

highlords ( 30 ias, 35 light res, 1 all skills, ds )

tgod

dwarf

raven

goblin toe

dracs, ofc lol

LT wand

kira ort'ed

gris shield ''pdiapdiapdia''



kills ubers in 1 - 1.30 mins

This post was edited by ChaosSin on Sep 30 2009 07:10pm
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