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Aug 11 2009 12:51am
Fireball sorc guides are a whole lot of bull shit to make a rediculously [sic] terrible build look good.

They are a nice try

100's (?) of players have tried them before you, you didn't invent it.
and there's a real good reason they have to sit in town afk to do nothing??


yes, your logic is impressive.
Shamans are already a popular build I've seen about a dozen of them so far, not common yet like cookie cutters, but everyone already knows they work.
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Aug 11 2009 01:36am
i highly doubt anyone takes this serious

8% dr vs bows and smiters still rate them easy when you will just die in 1-2 hits
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Bowas are easy duels for a shaman, and smiters have no chance without absorb.

You are rendered functionally immune to guided arrow via your grizzly stack, and thus against bowazons not using strafe, all you need to do is namelock teleport right on top of them and cast volcano at your feet. Your mostly immune to multiarrow, so what are they going to do, try to shoot you before you can teleport into range? Circlestrafe teleport around them and pop in for the kill. Even against good bowazons they fight at a severe disadvantage; only the top 3 bowazons on all of useast last season had a chance whatsoever. Using DR/Block against them would be overkill, theres simply no need for it. In fact, bowazons are probably the easiest duel for a shaman of any of the major cookie cutters. You can mow them down by the truckloads. So why stack dr/block? Its like a fire trapper stacking DR against a wind druid; its a retarded idea, since you'll ezpk them either way.

Smiters are nothing but chargers against a shaman, since they'll never be smiting you. As such, unless they absorb, fissure tears them apart pretty handily. And yes, when they absorb, they're a right pain in the ass, and it takes a long time to widdle them down. But a properly played shaman will still beat a sorbing smiters, since he can use volcano defensively to take them apart piece by piece.

But to suggest that you need to stack defense against bowazons is to demonstrate to us that you have no idea how a shaman works, since its one of the easiest matchups already.

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Aug 11 2009 01:52am
no you just duel rands in pubs since 2002 and never faced anyone good
you are fucking horrible i doubt anyone decent will lose to you
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Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:43am)
Bowas are easy duels for a shaman, and smiters have no chance without absorb.

You are rendered functionally immune to guided arrow via your grizzly stack, and thus against bowazons not using strafe, all you need to do is namelock teleport right on top of them and cast volcano at your feet. Your mostly immune to multiarrow, so what are they going to do, try to shoot you before you can teleport into range? Circlestrafe teleport around them and pop in for the kill. Even against good bowazons they fight at a severe disadvantage; only the top 3 bowazons on all of useast last season had a chance whatsoever. Using DR/Block against them would be overkill, theres simply no need for it. In fact, bowazons are probably the easiest duel for a shaman of any of the major cookie cutters. You can mow them down by the truckloads. So why stack dr/block? Its like a fire trapper stacking DR against a wind druid; its a retarded idea, since you'll ezpk them either way.

Smiters are nothing but chargers against a shaman, since they'll never be smiting you. As such, unless they absorb, fissure tears them apart pretty handily. And yes, when they absorb, they're a right pain in the ass, and it takes a long time to widdle them down. But a properly played shaman will still beat a sorbing smiters, since he can use volcano defensively to take them apart piece by piece.

But to suggest that you need to stack defense against bowazons is to demonstrate to us that you have no idea how a shaman works, since its one of the easiest matchups already.


Further evidence that you just duel terrible pubs.
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no you just duel rands in pubs since 2002 and never faced anyone good
you are fucking horrible i doubt anyone decent will lose to you


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Quote (drt1245 @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 02:56am)
Further evidence that you just duel terrible pubs.

I've dueled the top rated bowazons on the realms, and won more than I lost. Theres no need to 'duel' pub bowazons, you simply roll over them
And yes, fire trappers destroy wind druids, even better than lightning trappers, doofus. The only thing the druid can do is absorb. And if he does, DR/Block won't save you

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 11 2009 02:01am
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Aug 11 2009 02:07am
holy rage essay.
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Aug 11 2009 02:24am
i love this guide ;]

the best part: The BOULDERPK

:D i need to try if out somewhere, since i made some tppk with my iceblast on sc, a boulder wil be much more funny and easier to do (i'm too slow >.>)
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Aug 11 2009 02:42am
didnt read yet, but trapper doesnt lose to charger ^^
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chargers invariably absorb :~)
sure a hybrid beats em, but I was talking bout pure trappers

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