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Jun 21 2009 04:59pm
Quote (bvent11 @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 06:38pm)
hey sorc
I just have a regular hdin is that still fine? Or do I need to build a mf barb?
pm me plz

An hdin might be nerfed in the new 1.13 patch. It's a content patch, meaning they are introducing new things.
But for now, until we know more, an hdin is fine, everyone has one. Tele, click, easy.

Quote (miken @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 06:37pm)
It's great actually.. tried @singleplayer
gonna make one of these.. i can afford most of it.. so i'll give it a shot :D
GG guide

Find item and crafting are where you will make your forum gold.

This post was edited by Sorc101 on Jun 21 2009 05:00pm
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Quote (bvent11 @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 11:55pm)
stfu faggot


I wonder how you came to any assumptions about my sexual orientation... but hey nevertheless you gave us enough information about yours.

homophobia is so grown up behavior.
being afraid of what others do in their privacy, you must be very confident, indeed.

still this does not change that

the person that wrote this draft does not know pvm or game mechanics...

1.f.e. how does mf work
2. how does killspeed work
3. how to play a frenzy, let alone a physical melee (lt is for those that cannot play, wsm bug and so on)
4. how to be better with less dupes
5. how to use an effective merc
6. how to stat a physical melee

it is pretty easy to build a character that is safer and yet kills more monsters in the same amount of time while having enough mf to be effective.

this draft is a failure because one can achieve better results with less input


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Quote (Sorc101 @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 06:15pm)
So alot of you have been wondering, just who the hell is Sorc101?
Well, those that remember me, would know me as w.K)bRoOkLyN or kG-bRoOkLyN from 2003-2005
My internet alias was bRoOk back then.  Since 2008, I've been Sorc101.

I've made 3 characters since my return, a fireball sorc, an mf/gf frenzy barb and a strafazon.

This is the first guide I will be writing and it's going to be about the frenzy barbarian.
Look in the future for fb sorc guide and a strafazon guide as well.

I used to pvp in 2004, but never since (boring)

If you are a PvM'er, or want to start learning how to mF & craft, then this guide is for you!

When i made my barb i referred to Papa Smurf's guide to remember how to do it.
I tweeked it of course, to suit my godliness.  As you grow in forum gold, you can do the same.

Stat points and skill points:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/72/barbbuild.jpg
(or click here: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/72/barbbuild.jpg

Basically, I put 100% of the points into Vitality because the items I used on my barb boosted the str i needed to equip everything.
This character requires 0 dexterity (you do not block when duel wielding) and 0 energy (jus mana leech is all you need)

When using find item, you want to be at 49% because after that you will recieve what's known as diminishing returns (no futher bonus, a penalty instead)

This Video shows a demonstration of the barbarian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoDSPEug9FI
I used fraps to create the video and recorded it from a laptop, so it is a little laggy and slow, but it shows you the supremacy.

Here is a picture of the barbarian equipped with some of the best gear on useast.
You will of course adjust your own build according to what you can and cannot afford.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5970/imthechamp.jpg
(or click here: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5970/imthechamp.jpg)

My 50% warn doesn't allow me to post images (spamming)

Code
Breakdown of mf/gf:

mf       gf
22        -
46        -
92        -
50       39
25       80
133      -
30       80
40      200
40      160

(switch)
49        -
92      230
92      230
(-46)

(merc kill)
25      75


478mf 559gf killing
503mf 634gf when merc gets the kill
corpse horking: 665mf // 1019gf

Godly.


Some Places to MF:

Den of Evil - blue zombie in there
Cave lvl 1 - coldcrow the archer
Stony Field - Rakanishu
The pit - entire lvl 1 and 2 (found in tamoe highland)
Inner Closter - Bone Ash
Andariel (of course!)
Sewers Lvl 2
Lost City - The Ancient Tunnels
Act 3 all six temples (bazaar upper and causeway)
Travincal
Mephisto
River of Flame - entire area
Chaos Sanctuary
Eldricth
Pindleskin
Sharptooth (in frigid by captive barbs)
Eyeback (at entrance to arreat plateu)
Thresh Socket (at entrance to crystalline passage)
BoneSaw (inside glacial trail)
Drifter's Cavern (cave in glacial trail)
Halls of Pain/Vaught - Nilathak
Ancient's Way - entire area
Icy Cellar (cave in the ancients way)
Worldstone lvl 1 2 3 and throne room
Baal


Subbosses are the key, always kill champs, remember not to use any cold damage because this freezes bodies and you can't search them!
Tell your party members to take off redemption/holy freeze, and tell the necros to piss off on the corpse explosion :D
When inside the chaos sanctuary, never use frenzy while oblivion mages are present.  Always use berzerk for fear of iron maiden!

Hope this helps you guys out there.  And remember, you can't become godly in a day!

Good luck!!

All questions should be posted.  PMs will be ignored, my inbox is always spammed on a daily basis!!
Please post instead of PM and i will get to you when I can.  Thanks all.

"CHAMP OUT!!"

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PM'd meds to sticky the #1 mf/gf barbarian on the entire realm (east/west/europe/asia)


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it makes me :LOL: when ppl who have no need to mf make mf guides that completely blow away the principals behind the need to mf...
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Jun 21 2009 05:25pm
i was thinking of make an mf frenzy barb for fun, but i didn't realize it could this gg with find item XD

gg guide man. how much mf would you suggest using on this?
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Jun 21 2009 05:39pm
Quote (Ancalagon @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 05:48pm)
nice joke my little dupeusing noob

wrong eq
wrong stats
wrong merc


if I want inferior killspeed (and thus less items in the same amount of time, I' ll use your build)

otherwise:
learn game basics


lmfao my build closely resembles this

currently looking for 3/20/7's and a rare zerker to take over the ebotdz im using.

Your an idiot if you think the merc is wrong and if I wanted inferior advise I'd listen to you.

It's a great build, alotta fun, and godlies poppin out of everything everywhere.

Still say you should sell me your bmana 3/20/7's sorc. -_-
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Jun 21 2009 05:44pm
I remember you during 1.09 when you had been posting/spamming in the Battle.net D2 Trade Forums. I also remembered back then you were "rich" yet you would dodge all my duels. I didn't read the guide as I don't particularly care for it but it annoys me how people will suck your dick for the amount of fg you acquired.
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Jun 21 2009 05:57pm
Quote (Weebl_sNaw @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 07:44pm)
I remember you during 1.09 when you had been posting/spamming in the Battle.net D2 Trade Forums. I also remembered back then you were "rich" yet you would dodge all my duels. I didn't read the guide as I don't particularly care for it but it annoys me how people will suck your dick for the amount of fg you acquired.


lol, i know right, its just a shitty version of papasmurfs guide, which doesn't explain half of anything you should know about frenzy
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Jun 21 2009 06:14pm
Quote (Hotboxin240 @ Mon, Jun 22 2009, 12:39am)
lmfao my build closely resembles this
currently looking for 3/20/7's and a rare zerker to take over the ebotdz im using.
Your an idiot if you think the merc is wrong and if I wanted inferior advise I'd listen to you.
It's a great build, alotta fun, and godlies poppin out of everything everywhere.
Still say you should sell me your bmana 3/20/7's sorc. -_-


if your build resembles this than congrazz to an overpriced yedt ineffective piece of trash.

you know the difference between the two of us..
you call me an idiot but cannot come up with reasons why
I call you a fool who does not know the game and I can say why

but klet's just stick to the facts

1. why is an a1 merc pretty much bullshit aka a castration of the build:

the fanatism a1 merc offers speed and up to 144% off weapon ed

now the problem is the following: we do not need the speed of fanatism to get maximum speed because of a little good old thing called WSM bug aka left hand bug..(read majinkaisa's frenzyguide for a good explanation)
a simple a2 might merc offers more than 200% off weapon ed (more than faith)
and the a2 merc can use a reaper's toll which actually means that we face monsters that are more vulnerable to our attacks and we face less immunes...

this means that we deal more damage with an a2 merc and are safer
1. monsters are slower
2. monsters receive more damage
3. we receive less damage because monsters die sooner
4. we kill more monsters in the same amount of time which means more drops and more items = better

a1 mercs are not really a good choice

okay so that is proof for the wrong merc which then leads us to the wrong statting

more damage= more leech+stability+items --> you overstat str to increase oyur stability and killspeed
you do not need more than 2k life with a barbarian if you know how to play him...

but hey let's continue with the equipment

To go back to majinkaisa... if you MF, you are looking for things which means that you actually need stuff and thatswhy you do not invest all those runes.. let's see
jah+ber for eni which is mroe or less bullshit
jah for faith which is nonsense
LO for DS in a very bad weapon (low damage compared to a simple oath 400 ed eth = 266% ed non eth for example)
cham in the helmet for nonfreeze when a simple raven is enough
LW which is actually a bad choice because of several things
a ) low basedam
b) fade which is not needed (+ treachery offers a higher fade anyway)
c) might aura cannot make up for the damageloss of the baseitem
d) LT on strike which is counterproductive because it does not help you in the important situations for a physical melee (IM,PI,dolls)
e) LT which means no dec which means less damage and more immunes = less killspeed

low DS and CB rates because of the equipment


I could go on but this is just too easy

This post was edited by Ancalagon on Jun 21 2009 06:17pm
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Quote (Ancalagon @ Sun, Jun 21 2009, 07:14pm)
you know the difference between the two of us..
you call me an idiot but cannot come up with reasons why
I call you a fool who does not know the game and I can say why

the fanatism a1 merc offers speed and up to 144% off weapon ed

now the problem is the following: we do not need the speed of fanatism to get maximum speed because of a little good old thing called WSM bug aka left hand bug..(read majinkaisa's frenzyguide for a good explanation)
a simple a2 might merc offers more than 200% off weapon ed
and the a2 merc can use a reaper's toll which actually means that we face monsters that are more vulnerable to our attacks and we face less immunes...

this means that we deal more damage with an a2 merc and are safer
1. monsters are slower
2. monsters receive more damage
3. we receive less damage because monsters die sooner
4. we kill more monsters in the same amount of time which means more drops and more items = better

a1 mercs are not really a good choice

okay so that is proof for the wrong merc which then leads us to the wrong statting

more damage= more leech+stability+items --> you overstat str to increase oyur stability and killspeed
you do not need more than 2k life with a barbarian if you know how to play him...

but hey let's continue with the equipment

To go back to majinkaisa... if you MF, you are looking for things which means that you actually need stuff and thatswhy you do not invest all those runes.. let's see
jah+ber for eni which is mroe or less bullshit
jah for faith which is nonsense
LO for DS in a very bad weapon (low damage compared to a simple oath)
cham in the helmet for nonfreeze when a simple raven is enough
LW which is actually a bad choice because of several things
a ) low basedam
b) fade which is not needed (+ treachery offers a higher fade anyway)
c) might aura cannot make up for the damageloss of the baseitem
d) LT on strike which is counterproductive because it does not help you in the important situations for a physical melee (IM,PI,dolls)
e) LT which means no dec which means less damage and more immunes = less killspeed

low DS and CB rates because of the equipment


I could go on but this is just too easy


its a barb to kill shitty monsters on a easy pve game
god
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Jun 21 2009 06:19pm
Quote (Pawncey @ Mon, Jun 22 2009, 01:15am)
its a barb to kill shitty monsters on a easy pve game
god


it is trying to be an mf barb and the monsters have mroe life than any pvp player... good god

no point in using this when one can be better at it without wasting so many dupes....

mf charactera are there to kill fast to find items... this barbarian is not as fast as other cheaper mf-frenzies which are therefore the better choice
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