~@~ Gris Set LIGHT Avenger ~@~

I got bored, so I decided to do the usual, and post an old build that I used in 1.10.
You will probably have alot of questions, maybe just call me a noob or whatever,
my suggestion, just say what you want, it is about discussing things anyway.

Let us get started, first of all, I wanted a Noob looking character in pub games.
Help team with conviction aura and also be able to kill, on occassions Pub kill FCzons
and the occassional noob trapper and light sorcs.

Attributes (Stats):
Strength: NONE
Dexterity: Enough for equipment after other items or you can opt for max block.
Vitality: Rest
Energy: NONE

Skills:
20 Vengeance
20 Conviction
20 Light Resistance
20 Holy Shield
1 Salvation
1 Pre Requisites

Note: After all quests you should be finished at lvl81 for skills. NOW the extra points from there
is entirely up to you as in what to do.

Why I chose to Max out Light Resistance Synergy
In PvM, Lightning is a very strong element, if not the strongest. Also lightning immune is one of the easiest resistances to remove with Conviction.

Pre Note: Using Cadaceus weapon you will need to reach 109%ias to get last bp.
40% on Gris wpn
75% from 5x 15%ias jewels
115% ias Total with this setup.

Items:
Gris Helm:
- Cham = Cannot Be Frozen
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Armor:
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Weapon: Automatic 40%ias
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Zod = Indestructible = But you can choose any other option
Gris Shield
- Minus 15 req jewel with any mods
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- Light Facet = You can choose anything
Boots:
- Sandstorm Treks
Ammy:
- Mara's/Seraphs/Angelics
Ring1:
- Rare mana leech/15+ str
Ring2
- Bk/Soj/Angelics
Belt:
- Tgods = 20str is what you are after or anything to your choosing
Gloves:
- Draculs Grasp No other.

Switch:
Cta
Spirit

Inventory:
Besides the standard Torch/Anni, the rest is up to you, with this build you can use more mf charms, dmg/ar/life Anything.
Also with the Medium Armor and Shield, you will notice your run walk speed to be slow, so you may want some frw sc's with
mods to help you out.

Complete Set Bonus
+3 To Paladin Skill Levels
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+200 To Attack Rating
+20 To Strength
+30 To Dexterity
+150 To Life
All Resistances +50
Display Aura

View Arreat on Item Bonuses:
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/sets/sets5.shtml#griswoldslegacy

End Note:
Yes there are better setups, there are better items, there are a ton of cookies out, but this is just for the Hell of it, and if you are in pub game and kill while people calling you a noob, on the inside you can just laugh at them.

~@~ izParagonzi ~@~

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 13 2008 12:04pm

all these weird builds..

whatever happened to good old hdin ?

1. how many avenger guides are there in this forum

2. is it so hard to figure out what an avenger should look like or what he needs and what one can do with the full griswold set to achieve this

3. how many variances are there to skill the syns of an avenger.. yours is only one way to skill and on the next hand a totally wrong way to fill the sockets

4.if one can achive better results with less input... what does that tell us?

5. @ zeal let`s see
off weapon ed:
+10 allskills
1 point zeal 1 point sacrifice------>54% off weapon ed from zeal
mighter merc: 200 ed
str= 150 ed
sockets: 200 ed in your example

0% deadly strike

gris weapon damage: 145-186 (mind the gain of the set)-->165 avdam

this is overall:
1. 4,46 attacks per seconds not 5,2
109 ias is not 142.....

2. damage oputput:
1116 per strike---->4900 damage per second


let us have a look at soul killers @ wsk on players 1
15% physical resistance, 25 light,25 cold,115 fire , average life of 4172
948 damage per strike that you do to them
means you need 4,4 attacks to kill one of them------ 1 second for one monster

(cb will not be of much help because of the low monsterlife itself)


and now we use my setup and don`t rely on zeal for this but go for vengeance
lvl 25 conv, 20 vengeance,10 in each dam synergy and my setup (without the maxdam jewels)
only 2x 15 ias jewels without ed and 2 pure 40 ed jewels in the weapon

10 +skills for this: with lvl 16 hs and 25er conv, redemption- lvl 76

vengeance: 344% for each element
physical damage of the weapon:
20-40 damage setbonus
15-25 wt`s
caduceus=37-43 dam, 320 ed-->155-180
------------------------------------------------------- damage:190-245--->217 avdam

elemental damage:
746 for each element

cold and lightning are at - 100% hence
1492 damage for each of them
fire is pieced and at @85% 111 fire damage

off weapon ed: 200 merc 150 str
physical damage=976
15% physres=829

1492+1492+829+111=3924 damage per strike--->12614 damage per second versus theese monsters


2 strikes per monster--> 0,66 seconds per monster

so
1. you don´t kill faster with zeal
2. you are not at maxspeed
3. should I really use a monster with more physres f.e. a minotaur?

4. playing a physical oriented zealot without deadly strike is like playing a sorc without masteries
you loose ~ 80% or more of your overall damage and leach, killspeed
------- you receive more dam, you have less effective life and less killspeed= bad to do that

what am I talking about
1. slow attackspoeed= 3,12 attacks per second.. the smiter does one mroe, the whirler at least 3 more, same for the wolf, bowie or kicksin

@ merc
decrepefy is the better damage booster, not to mention the safetygain and the higher physdam of the weapon, which means more ll for the merc, not to mention that ll is on the weaüpon, which means use of gulli on merc--> more damage/leach/survivability
pride is for noobs

@ last comment... see 1stz answer already includes more than anything necessary ^^
that is a griswold avenger guide

but hey maybe I`ll write a complete avenger guide, not too hard and easy to do

This post was edited by Ancalagon on Oct 13 2008 12:40pm

I know, I just get sick and tired of just mf'ing, ubering, organ collecting the same ol shite over and over with a hammerdin (and smiter).

I just like being odd, different, play the game as it is, or was meant to be played.

----------------Sep Bar-------------------



Again, I have to at your comments, you do not read at all, you bable on about whatever, how about we take a look at some comments made in my original post:





Now, let us look at the TITLE of the guide:
~@~ Gris Set Light Pvm Avenger ~@~
Now, do you notice the word "LIGHT"?, okay, hence the Maxed out Light Resistence Skill Synergy.



Now, let us look at the "Skills" and my Comment:

As you can see, I have given the player the Option to use the extra SKILL points where ever they want to use them, whether it be another synergy or not. I think you again have ranted and raved on the obvious.


Well, you spent alot of time pointing out what I have stated.
As for looking at your calculations, there is no real point in answering them.
It was answered from the start.

Thank you all for your comments, it is nice to read feedback.

~@~ izParagonzi ~@~

thats why your an 08

~@~ izParagonzi ~@~

~@~ izParagonzi ~@~

it is always fun to see someone trying to post something and then not being able to take criticism and work on the flaws

so far all your builds have been and are inferior

same for your argumentations...........

@ joshd21
you can build every elemental zealot with the full gris set it offers everything that they need

skills,sockets,resis,ar

the only thing your comment shows is your little knowledge about the game

This post was edited by Ancalagon on Oct 19 2008 01:22pm

You mean to say I do not take criticism?
How can you criticise something when I stated from the begining that there are better items/builds?

I just think you like to be a know-it-all, you read the basics that you want to argue about, and only relate your BS to that.
But all in all, you have your say, whether or not it has been pointed out, you would make a good politician, state the obvious, do not think others opinions are better.

Oh well, nice to get a free bump.