imo no i think xu would say so too

I like Chaos / Fury best

But in my opinion, chaos / chaos is almost as good.

You lose all the open wounds and deadly strike, but you gain more damage and magic damage. Its really up to you. You can't go wrong either way though


OH and sewmai, you definitely need to boost that AR. For duels vs casters, shoot for at least 6 or 7K AR, and for melee duels, at least 15K ar is needed.

I duel with over 20K for melee duels, cause hitting is most important. Damage is secondary... Boost your ar forsure with angelics and demon limb

This post was edited by xu-godx on May 1 2004 09:00pm

ive seen sum use SS+chaos instead of Claw/Claw which is better? saving pts on Weap block or Using 2 claws?

no comparason. Dual claw sins own ss / claw.

Not being able to block elemental attacks sucks vs casters. Thats the main reason why you can tank casters. Without that, your just as vulnerable as anyone else.

Second, if you use SS, you have to pump dex to get a decent block rate, or melee chars would totallly own you. That means far less life in the end

also, the mods on the second claw is really benificial...

how much ar would i have with 1angelic n how much would i have with 2 ??..i just just enough stren n dex with lionheart..hopin to get bramble soon.. should i put 20 or 40 in to replace the ravens ?

The thing with angelics is this: The only match up you will need to wear 2 x angelics with amulet is vs WW barbs.

Even with the best possible gear, your still going to get beat by the best ww barbs out there. Even though since there are so few, I still beat at least 95% of WW barbs easy.

So if you want to just ignore WW barbs altogether, then you can still build your character with 1 raven frost that stays on all the time. You can switch the other ring and amulet out.

The only reason I use 2 x angelics and amulet, is because my ww sin is lvl 90 with 3700 life. I felt that at that point, more life isn't going to do much for me, so I put some in dex so I could wear 2 angelics.

I would recommend keeping 1 perfect raven frost on at all times, and building your character around that fact that its staying on. At lvl 85+, you can decide if its worth lvling up to 90 to be able to take it off to wear 1 more angelic.

1 extra angelic will give you about 4000 AR. I would have to check that cause its just a guess, but its about that much.

im thinkin of getin coh instead.. wats wrong with it.. it gives 65 resist which means u wont need any resist gears or charms..+2 skills = more everythin..bo..venom..fade..n all that, and it also gives +20 to stren which bramble doesnt have and i can then socket shako with a poison jewel cos i wont need more resist..but brambles got the posion dmg thing..so i cant decide which armor.. and also when i use the angelic ammy.. that means ill lose the mara aswel which is 10 more stat points n resists.. or should i forget all that n just wear lionheart and change into angelics when duelin melee

2 skill lvls barely helps out ww sins. Poison damage is the whole reason why the character is good in the first place. Since have horrible physical damage, and thats what your 2 skills is assisting. So your getting extra %'s on something that is small anyway. It won't help much.

I have max resists easily without a single resist charm, so no point in that, and that includes my 5/-5 shako. The um shako is only if you really don't have the resists.

Of course you can use whatever you want, but as I mentioned in my guide, COH and enigma are both far worse armors then Bramble or Nats, and they are also equally or even more expensive.

Whats the point of using an armor thats not only worse, but more expensive?

About the mara's, yes you have to stat your character without your mara's on, because it has 5 stat points that you won't have when using angelics.

And its impossible to beat ww barbs and smiters or zealots without angelics. The best AR you can get without angelics is around 10K or less. Thats not enough. You need 15K at least, and 20K is ideal.

Do u suggest fhr alot though?