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Apr 10 2026 07:56am
i dont have one yet..

waited till the market settles and i feel like i wanna try it now.. thought about the cheap insight version with phoenix and 75fcr for now


So I assume your answer to my question was: Echoing Strike

Here's how you should invest your skill points:
20 ES - main skill
20 mirror - synergy (max this one first because it gives more echoes)
20 blade warp - synergy (also used to ‘’tele’’ before enigma)
20 blood oath - this is what makes you very tanky (only hard points count, up to 43% dmg reduction at lvl 20)
1 bind demon - you want a demon with Cursed, to apply amp (and ideally with holy fire/freeze/shock to apply amp faster)
1 syphon - life and mana after each kill, good one point wonder to still sustain vs mobs without drain effectiveness
1 lethargy - only use to accelerate your kill speed vs bosses
Lvl 20 demonic mastery after +skills, but before BC form cta (on both sides)
Remaining points:
Before enigma -> consume
After enigma -> levitation mastery
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So I assume your answer to my question was: Echoing Strike

Here's how you should invest your skill points:
20 ES - main skill
20 mirror - synergy (max this one first because it gives more echoes)
20 blade warp - synergy (also used to ‘’tele’’ before enigma)
20 blood oath - this is what makes you very tanky (only hard points count, up to 43% dmg reduction at lvl 20)
1 bind demon - you want a demon with Cursed, to apply amp (and ideally with holy fire/freeze/shock to apply amp faster)
1 syphon - life and mana after each kill, good one point wonder to still sustain vs mobs without drain effectiveness
1 lethargy - only use to accelerate your kill speed vs bosses
Lvl 20 demonic mastery after +skills, but before BC form cta (on both sides)
Remaining points:
Before enigma -> consume
After enigma -> levitation mastery


it was ;)

thx mate, helped me a lot
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Apr 10 2026 08:04am
Here's an example of a cookie cutter build:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/4s18w0cc

620k aoe dps without inventory
great QoL, great sustain, 125fcr, ultra tanky
this gives you way more than what you could wish for, making any content on p8 a joke
you could spend 10x more fgs to improve this build, it would only improve on paper, it wouldn't change anything in game.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Apr 10 2026 08:04am
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Apr 10 2026 08:15am
Here's an example of a cookie cutter build:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/4s18w0cc

620k aoe dps without inventory
great QoL, great sustain, 125fcr, ultra tanky
this gives you way more than what you could wish for, making any content on p8 a joke
you could spend 10x more fgs to improve this build, it would only improve on paper, it wouldn't change anything in game.



tbh a 4os eth archon staff and that helmet are already way more than i wanted to spend :D

will use cv + shako + 2fcr rings i guess ;)


edit:

is highlord really necessary with crit from insight btw?

This post was edited by maGeneSs on Apr 10 2026 08:17am
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Apr 10 2026 09:26am
tbh a 4os eth archon staff and that helmet are already way more than i wanted to spend :D

will use cv + shako + 2fcr rings i guess ;)


edit:

is highlord really necessary with crit from insight btw?


Nothing is necessary
You can melt hell p8 with a random insight, practically naked
The build I linked is showing how to achieve maximum potential without breaking the bank, but you really don’t need that much
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Nothing is necessary
You can melt hell p8 with a random insight, practically naked
The build I linked is showing how to achieve maximum potential without breaking the bank, but you really don’t need that much


Yeah i know what u mean, my point was with critical strike around 60% the deadly strike will only be 0.4 x 33%..so around 13%
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Apr 10 2026 10:14am
Yeah i know what u mean, my point was with critical strike around 60% the deadly strike will only be 0.4 x 33%..so around 13%


Yeah the triangle between the amazon oskill Critical Strike (CS), the crit from Levitation Mastery (MCS), and Deadly Strike (DS) from items is definitely reducing the effectiveness of their counterparts.

Your final crit chance is equal to:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)*(100 - MCS)/10000

1% crit is still +1% overall dps, which is not negligible
but as you improve your build, at some point improving your dps becomes practically useless (only relevant for bosses and T5 heralds)
so for general pvm you can definitely prioritize your QoL and survivability
but keep in mind that +1 skill and 35 light res is also very great for the cheap cost of HL
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Apr 12 2026 12:00pm
for solo-self-found, single-button gameplay:

one point to:
sigil: death
engorge

max:
blood oath
demonic mastery (to 20 with items)
bind demon

If you want to use hephasto with green aura, the build guides recommend defiler + tainted and Blood Boil/engorge. If you want to use Lister with fanatacism then you put more points into goatman and death mark.

The build guides recommend *one point* into bind demon, letting items bring it up, but with SSF i find it much easier to rely on the bound demon. If you can stay back from mobs, the 3 demon bag will play the game for you, much faster than a zooid.


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