Yes I am well aware of that, as it was already mentioned in post #5 by about SS druids, and I voluntarily excluded this information because it is useless in this topic with the known information posted by OP.
But even then, the +9str can almost always surpass the +10min, even if we apply it to a low min dmg efool zerker.

300ed efool zerk with 37x 3max scs = 144-584 base dmg
Again, using an approximative 828% off weapon dmg ed from a standard conc barb with 205 str

39ed (from 30ed/9str) jewel
828+39‎ = 867 total ed
144*9.67‎ = 1 392,48
584*9.67‎ = 5 647,28
(1392+5647)/2‎ = 3 519,5

30ed/10min
828+30‎ = 858
154*9.28‎ = 1 429,12
584*9.58‎ = 5 594,72
(1429+5594)/2‎ = 3 511,5

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 7 2026 12:27pm

read below



which is to say that a 30/60/9/9 shouldn't be compared to a 10/60/9/9 but to a 30/10/9/9 or 30/18/9

I'm sorry that you are so mad at me for helping you improve once more.
But read again what you said:

This is precisely what I did in that comparison. I replaced either of the 2 stats by 10min.
The calcs are showing 30ed/10min vs 30ed/9stat (in both case with same hit chance by keeping the 60ar, and it doesn't matter if we replace the str or dex)
Replacing the ar would be catastrophic, it is the single most important mod on that jewel for that kind of duel.
It would be harder to come up with an actual comparison if we did, but it would certainly result in the worst of all available possible 4 perfect affix rolls.
And if we replace the 2nd 9 stats affix by an extra 8min, then as it is already shown with 10min vs 9 stats, 8min vs 9 stats is even worse.

strangely angry comment, just don't bust an artery. still upset that I exposed that you're a scamming locked multi I guess

you seem confused so here's a chronological summary of this topic (not by ai, though I know that's your preferred method):

1 - op asks: which is better, jewel A or B?
2 - user replies: jewel A generally, though in some cases B might make sense
3 - Dolphy fills in: yes but B is not a good comparison because the scenarios where a jewel B would make sense, you're better off with jewel C
4 - rambles: akshully B and C sucka jewelz bekos min ed jewel bugget
5 - Dolphy fills in: here's how you're misunderstanding the jewel bug
6 - lashes out with a useless wall of numbers and uses a character and build that's irrelevant to the discussion to illustrate that jewel A > jewel D

This post was edited by Dolphy on Jan 7 2026 01:40pm

(AllMin+AllMax)/2*(1+((Statbonus+SkillEd+GearEd+AuraEd)/100))

Excel is your friend here.
Fill in, make formula, compare.

You do not need any other info in this current example.
Both has same stats and ar, all you change is 10min vs 30ed.

So unless your a smiter this formula will give you answere.

This post was edited by gel87 on Jan 7 2026 05:23pm

This is true.

The only difference (not addressing gel87) is based on your hand/eye co-ordination and your tactics... you can have the best gear, but it amounts to shit to your experience.