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Just kill the witches first?

If I can do Ubers on a hardcore pala with 1k life, you can do it too

Then just stack a bit of dr, maybe fade from treachery and string of ears and you’ll be fine with maxblock

And it’ll always be -100 up to -100% dr so yea it’s not worth stacking dr, just avoid amp while fighting her


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I am playing single player and my budget uber smiter has one big problem: Lilith and her casting ampify damage surrounding witches.

Is damage reduction capped at 50% under any circumstances so with amplify my dmg reduction is -50%?

Or what if i stack damage reduction to 96%(shaft, storm, string, fade from treachery), will then the effective damage reduction be -4% when cursed? Or will it be again -50%?


I agree it's not worth it to try and stack dr, I guess it just depends on how "budget" your smiter is.

For me when I made my hardcore Uber smiters the most important thing was a life tap wand to immediately tap Lilith, you can shop one from Drognan/Ormus/Malah. You need life tap on Lilith immediately and sometimes dracs takes forever to proc. As long as she is tapped and you are smiting you basically can't die.
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Dec 4 2025 05:44am
Only the final value of your DR% is capped between -100 and +50.

Yes, if you had 96%, you would have 50% when not cursed, 46% while drecrep'd, and -4% while amp'd.

It would be a pretty bad build overall if you played with 96% DR tho...
Like everyone said, just kill the witches first.

CB dmg only gets reduced by positive DR%.
But it does not deal more dmg against a target with negative DR%.


Thanks, that was exactly what i was asking. I burn the keys i collect through the week on saturday morning, so ill test some dr when fighting Lilith and will write the result.
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I agree it's not worth it to try and stack dr, I guess it just depends on how "budget" your smiter is.

For me when I made my hardcore Uber smiters the most important thing was a life tap wand to immediately tap Lilith, you can shop one from Drognan/Ormus/Malah. You need life tap on Lilith immediately and sometimes dracs takes forever to proc. As long as she is tapped and you are smiting you basically can't die.


My smiter has good gear, except for grief and highlords which i dont have yet. Im playing on single player and i assure you you can die even with life tap on Lilith, if there are enough witches around (which is my case sadly).
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Thanks, that was exactly what i was asking. I burn the keys i collect through the week on saturday morning, so ill test some dr when fighting Lilith and will write the result.


Take the following as an example that you will still die if you don't REMOVE the Ranged or witches when going against Lillith... everyone told you to do this... so draw out the PACKS and kill them off, just ensure that Lillith stays put. Lock Lillith down in a closed room, then you can use Amp on Lilly and charge in (or tele) to kill Lilly off, you can also move into a better killing position.

Strategy first off... and why are you just using a Smiter to do Ubers???
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Just like i said then ^^ I knew i was right.
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Take the following as an example that you will still die if you don't REMOVE the Ranged or witches when going against Lillith... everyone told you to do this... so draw out the PACKS and kill them off, just ensure that Lillith stays put. Lock Lillith down in a closed room, then you can use Amp on Lilly and charge in (or tele) to kill Lilly off, you can also move into a better killing position.

Strategy first off... and why are you just using a Smiter to do Ubers???


I made a mistake... I stated "AMP" when I meant "Life Tap"... sorry for the confusion.
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Strategy first off... and why are you just using a Smiter to do Ubers???


What hero would you suggest for killing ubers on single player?
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What hero would you suggest for killing ubers on single player?


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Dec 5 2025 04:51am
Not being amped is a far more effective solution than stacking DR. It's worth clearing a "safe zone" before aggroing Lilith so you got a clear space to fight her.

Also surprised no one mentioned this legendary thread:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76308020
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