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Nov 6 2025 10:18am
I don’t think u know how slow works
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https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

Character: Paladin
Wereform: None
Skill: zeal
Table: Ias
P weapon: Berserker axe
Fanatism: 29 or whatever skill level you have
Burst of speed: 0
[] Mark of the bear
Holy Freeze: 0
Slowed by: 50
[] Decrepify
[] Chilled

If u put that list like this you will find theese crucial numbers we gave you:
99 ias (Ur question, ur dropping from 100 ias, to 95... 95<99....
133 ias (A goal hard to reach)

But the thing is, a berserker axe has WSM speed of 0, a phaseblade has a wsm speed of: -30.
You will then see that a grief PB with same scenario will have way lower ias breaks at the cost of 1 range adder:
30 ias = (5)+10
46 ias = (5)+9
86 ias = (5)+8
113 ias = (4)+8

Your currently using Ba with (5)+10.
Thats (5*4)+10 = 30 frames to finnish 1 zeal serie.

So if you went down to 95ias on ur ba, well then you would have (6*4)+10 = 34 frames to finnish a zeal serie.

Meanwhile, if you used 46 ias on a pb you would have (5*4)+9= 29 frames to finnish a serie.
86 ias would only be 28 frames to finnish a serie.

But if you where able to manage 113 ias on a grief pb, well then my friend you would finnish a zeal serie in (4*4)+8 = 24 frames, which is 1 frame faster than a ingame second.
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Nov 6 2025 03:16pm
Well like I said, going from (5)+10 to (5)+9 is only saving 1 frame at the end of zeal.

You want to make sure that this 50% slow is not gonna make your 4 first attacks slower, the last one is the least relevant.
At (6)+10 you attack 3.68 times per sec -> this is what you don't want
At (5)+10 you attack 4.17 times per sec -> I would aim for this
At (5)+9 you attack 4.31 times per sec -> very slight increase where you probably lose more effective hp than you gain effect dmg

If you are looking to get more life, aim for lvl 27+ fana and 100ias (99 bp), which will maintain (5)+10
60ias from botd
20ias from (ideally) crafted blood gloves -> CB dmg goes through bone armor. Something like 10%CB/20ias/15dex/15str would be awesome
Then you need 20ias from either HL (best offensive option) or from 2x ias jewels in circ (allowing for more fcr/life total)

If you really want 133ias, you'll sacrifice a lot elsewhere... You would need to add something like 10ias belt, or 3x ias jewel circ... I can't see any scenario where it's worth it. It's only 1/5th of a frame faster per attack overall, but worse than this in practice, because the necro might already be out of your range when you swing for your last attack.


https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

Character: Paladin
Wereform: None
Skill: zeal
Table: Ias
P weapon: Berserker axe
Fanatism: 29 or whatever skill level you have
Burst of speed: 0
[] Mark of the bear
Holy Freeze: 0
Slowed by: 50
[] Decrepify
[] Chilled

If u put that list like this you will find theese crucial numbers we gave you:
99 ias (Ur question, ur dropping from 100 ias, to 95... 95<99....
133 ias (A goal hard to reach)

But the thing is, a berserker axe has WSM speed of 0, a phaseblade has a wsm speed of: -30.
You will then see that a grief PB with same scenario will have way lower ias breaks at the cost of 1 range adder:
30 ias = (5)+10
46 ias = (5)+9
86 ias = (5)+8
113 ias = (4)+8

Your currently using Ba with (5)+10.
Thats (5*4)+10 = 30 frames to finnish 1 zeal serie.

So if you went down to 95ias on ur ba, well then you would have (6*4)+10 = 34 frames to finnish a zeal serie.

Meanwhile, if you used 46 ias on a pb you would have (5*4)+9= 29 frames to finnish a serie.
86 ias would only be 28 frames to finnish a serie.

But if you where able to manage 113 ias on a grief pb, well then my friend you would finnish a zeal serie in (4*4)+8 = 24 frames, which is 1 frame faster than a ingame second.


Yes sorry I meant the total ias with fanatcism was 133%, meaning the 99% bp mentioned, and should have said the 5(10) attack frame. The objective is to Maintain the results I was getting without using ias gloves, which again Sin answered nicely before.

PB would ofc be better, just trying to make it work without the dex investment. I kinda prefer the range on Ba ne way

no question your knowledge of zeal is complete, and I appreciate the input

So, I am going to get a 30ias circ, Case Closed!!!!!


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Nov 6 2025 03:24pm
Yes sorry I meant the total ias with fanatcism was 133%, meaning the 99% bp mentioned, and should have said the 5(10) attack frame. The objective is to Maintain the results I was getting without using ias gloves, which again Sin answered nicely before.

PB would ofc be better, just trying to make it work without the dex investment. I kinda prefer the range on Ba ne way

^gel87 no question your knowledge of zeal is complete, and I appreciate the input

So, I am going to get a 30ias circ, Case Closed!!!!!


Case open (or maybe not, it may be the way you worded it but I want to make sure you understood it right)

133ias is needed ON TOP of fana if you want to maintain (5)+9 zeal
Fana is EIAS, not the sane thing as ias from gear.
And slow is -EIAS

For (5)+10 you need 99ias ON TOP of fana.
This is the zeal breakpoint you reach with 100ias from botd + HL + 20ias gloves

If you get a 30ias circ you will reach 130 out of the 133 ias needed, it won’t change anything. It’s only something you could consider using if your goal is to replace either your gloves or amy.
You would reach 110ias, in-between the 99 and 133 breakpoints

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Nov 6 2025 03:25pm
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Nov 6 2025 03:33pm
It’s always more precise to speak only in EIAS rather than mixing up both ias and EIAS…

WSM = reverse EIAS
Zerker = wsm 0 = 0 EIAS

Slow 50 = -50 EIAS

Fana lvl 27 to 35 = 37 EIAS

Zeal breakpoints :
EIAS / frames
0 (7)+13
8 (7)+12
17 (6)+11
28 (6)+10
41 (5)+9
56 (5)+8
75 (4)+7

ias from gear is calculated as:
EIAS = floor((120 * IAS) / (120 + IAS))
IAS = ceiling(120 * EIAS / (120 - EIAS))

Necessary EIAS = Target EIAS - Skill EIAS + WSM
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Nov 6 2025 03:45pm
It’s always more precise to speak only in EIAS rather than mixing up both ias and EIAS…

WSM = reverse EIAS
Zerker = wsm 0 = 0 EIAS

Slow 50 = -50 EIAS

Fana lvl 27 to 35 = 37 EIAS

Zeal breakpoints :
EIAS / frames
0 (7)+13
8 (7)+12
17 (6)+11
28 (6)+10
41 (5)+9
56 (5)+8
75 (4)+7

ias from gear is calculated as:
EIAS = floor((120 * IAS) / (120 + IAS))
IAS = ceiling(120 * EIAS / (120 - EIAS))

Necessary EIAS = Target EIAS - Skill EIAS + WSM


Like i said, I want to " MAINTAIN the results I was getting COMMA without using ias gloves", which I will by 1.removing 20ias and 2.adding 30ias Circ. So, case remains closed :P
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Nov 6 2025 04:03pm
Like i said, I want to "MAINTAIN the results I was getting COMMA without using ias gloves", which I will by 1.removing 20ias and 2.adding 30ias Circ. So, case remains closed :P


Alright yeah haha
Sorry I was just making sure
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Nov 7 2025 07:50am
Examples here:
https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Zeal_attack_speed

EIAS = Floor(120*IAS/(120+IAS)+SKILLIAS-WSM-SLOW)

Baseframe: 15
Actionframe: 7
Zeal Rollback: 100%

InitalHit:
=CEILING((ActionFrame-0)*256/FLOOR(256*(100+EIAS)/100;1);1)

StartFrameMiddleHits:
=FLOOR(FLOOR(0+((InitialHit*FLOOR(((100+EIAS)*256)/100;1))/256);1)*((100-Rollback)/100);1)

MiddleHits:
=CEILING((ActionFrame-StartFrameMiddleHits)*256/FLOOR(256*(100+EIAS)/100;1);1)

StartFrameLastHit:
=FLOOR(FLOOR(StartFrameMiddleHits+((MiddleHits*FLOOR(((100+EIAS)*256)/100;1))/256);1)*((100-Rollback)/100);1)

LastHit:
=CEILING((BaseFrame-StartFrameLastHit)*256/FLOOR(256*(100+EIAS)/100;1);1)-1

This is how zeal works.
It works different on sorc and amazon, because they skip the 2 first pictures in a attack serie like this. Which is why they get 3 different frames: Start-Middle-Last.
Strafe also offers 3 different types of fpas, because it has 50% rollback, and fury now has 70% rollback i think which also offers 3 different type of frames.
The -1 is always use together with Baseframe, because its a smoothing feature for the animation. And the actionframe is usually half(rounded down) of baseframe.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 7 2025 07:51am
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