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Aug 16 2025 08:02am
It's more of an offhand claw for dual claw kicksin.
It has ias issues for everything else. And skill issues for trap offhand.

Jade talon and bartuc can be used offhand for a pure C/C kicksin thought. But usually u want chaos instead for wirl.
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Aug 16 2025 11:16am
I had a kicksin that used last wish pb and guil helm for 100% cb. always thought that was the best.
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Aug 16 2025 11:13pm
So is non-eth up’d bartuc with um rune better for PvP than eth up’d?


questions like this always depend on the situarion who you are facing... against an es sorc um rune always will be best option, for a hammer who tele stomps on you it will be higher claw dmg.. so if you cinsider this for pvp, have both, as you said it is budget

however there are even cheap rares which will outperfom both..
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