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Oct 3 2024 11:51am
Quote (KKIINNGG @ Oct 3 2024 12:19pm)
there is no setup close to a grief + highlords + gface + gores (70ds 50cb)

you can play botd or death setups for fun, even eth death cleaver but its not even close to the setup i noted above

maybe u can justify in some cases where u dont play highlords/gface/gores but why wouldnt you... it will be inferior anyway


Thanks for the input!
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Oct 3 2024 12:12pm
Quote (KosMosII @ 3 Oct 2024 19:51)
Thanks for the input!


no problem, to put you in context... lowest grief dmg roll 340 has about same average dmg than a perf 415ed botd
in other words you would need like 700 dmg 1h weapon to match a high rolled grief... not possible

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Quote (KosMosII @ Oct 2 2024 11:28pm)
So Berserk does not require much ias to reach max cap

However I'm wondering which one between grief or death is stronger on Berserk barbarian?

Is the glacial spike proc valuable to prevent monsters from attacking 0def barb ?

Thanks in advance! :santa:


Shield is stupid on Berserk imo, just force you to block animation with 0 defence = slowing you down. Personally i prefer 2h Death, but that is probably just me.

Setup what i had was something like:

- Guilli ” Ias jewel ”
- Death Eth Decapitator / Glorious Axe
- Enigma
- LoH
- Nosfe
- WT’s
- HL
- Raven
- Dwarf/Nature/Wisp/Stat Ring ( Str / Dex / Life / Mana or what ever )

Dual Hoto switch for Teleport, Act1 Merc with Faith +13 Fanaticism.

CB% / DS% / OW% works with Berserk, Life or Mana leech doesn’t, neather Life Tap. Gores or Goblins are not needed with setup above because you already have near 100% CB and DS.

e: If you go with Grief PB then off hand should be Beast War Spike or so. Then you can use different Merc, maybe Act 2 Might with Pride for Conc aura ?

This post was edited by MultipleUser1 on Oct 4 2024 12:38am
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Oct 4 2024 04:32am
Quote (MultipleUser1 @ Oct 3 2024 11:32pm)
Shield is stupid on Berserk imo, just force you to block animation with 0 defence = slowing you down. Personally i prefer 2h Death, but that is probably just me.

Setup what i had was something like:

- Guilli ” Ias jewel ”
- Death Eth Decapitator / Glorious Axe
- Enigma
- LoH
- Nosfe
- WT’s
- HL
- Raven
- Dwarf/Nature/Wisp/Stat Ring ( Str / Dex / Life / Mana or what ever )

Dual Hoto switch for Teleport, Act1 Merc with Faith +13 Fanaticism.

CB% / DS% / OW% works with Berserk, Life or Mana leech doesn’t, neather Life Tap. Gores or Goblins are not needed with setup above because you already have near 100% CB and DS.

e: If you go with Grief PB then off hand should be Beast War Spike or so. Then you can use different Merc, maybe Act 2 Might with Pride for Conc aura ?


you would be doing a ton more damage with arreats and gores.

how does death decapitator match up with ebotd thunder maul?
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Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 4 2024 01:32pm)
you would be doing a ton more damage with arreats and gores.

how does death decapitator match up with ebotd thunder maul?


Dunno because i haven’t test BoTD on Berserk Barb. That is just some setup what i had years ago

This post was edited by MultipleUser1 on Oct 4 2024 04:34am
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