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Jun 30 2024 06:57pm
Is daggerzon anything worth considering in pvp? What about poison javazon? Pretty insane poison damage when it goes up high enough in level. At level 28, plague javelin does 20 000+, maybe with some facets too, even with 95% poison resist that'a 1000+ damage over ~13 seconds. If built even better, can hit for much more.
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Jul 1 2024 02:21am
Quote (Belarathon @ Jun 30 2024 11:16pm)
Probably worth using psn jav when possible anyways with all the jav skills


Yes also effective, but you would need to balance a little lower light for it to have relevant effect.
So i went with psn scs and boosted bow damage by putting to multi for 12% bonus via synenergies.
I did play 3hybrid zon for many years on d2lod. They are good.

This can be mixed up ofc:
- The current psn scs results in 3k psn damage over 12sec which are constantly applied by all ur attacks.
- One can add a lot of psn scs and it will result in around 10k psn damage. Still good bow and still like 8,4k CS damage.
- There is also the possibility to use trang oul's gloves + hl to boost psn damage at the cost of: KB, massive stats and 20@.

Here is with plague, lowering CS to make plague worth it. Changing jools in helm for more bow damage. Only 1 psn sc.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/hinpd0vm

Here is more psn scs and more bow damage:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/uvns00vv

And here is a build using more dex, and focusing more on physical bow damage:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/frns20vf

They all work, balanced based on ur own playstyle.

When i played 3hybrid zon on d2lod i went true all combinations(osama, java+bow, java + plauge, + java + plague+bow, difference balancing on all)
And what i ended up with became extreamly balanced. It had huge chance vs any chars and i have done more 1v4 than i can count in tvt.

I used this:
2/20/30/19@/57life/80ed/30ias
Enigma Scarab
2/20/20str/20@ ammu
Bug belt
2java/20ias/kb/14+/14+/7 atd
War Travs
Raven
Wisp
2/2/40ias/319 none Eth javs + SOP Mon
Faith MB 3/15/3 perf

Cube: Cta + demonlimb + soj + soj + mara
8 x java 45
torch
anni
Mix of 20/5@ and 3/20/20

That thing had no valk, due to wisp oak always:
39k plague
800-2,4k ga
7,6k cs
Decent bolt and fury

So if you have around those numbers i know it will work well.

3/20/20 or 3/20/3frw is up to you. I have not tried it without wsg and my 100frw was just enought in d2lod, a increase in frw wont be bad...

Quote (Kkbbhh @ Jul 1 2024 12:08am)
Gloves: 2java/kb/20ias/str/dex/7atd

Chance for frost nova not better?


7atd is stuck in those gloves, and when you have a strong psn damage that gonna kill a lot of barbs
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Jul 1 2024 02:32am
Quote (Taurean @ Jul 1 2024 02:57am)
Is daggerzon anything worth considering in pvp? What about poison javazon? Pretty insane poison damage when it goes up high enough in level. At level 28, plague javelin does 20 000+, maybe with some facets too, even with 95% poison resist that'a 1000+ damage over ~13 seconds. If built even better, can hit for much more.


Daggerzon will suck in pvp.
It can be built for troll, but you aint getting much damage.

By precasting lvl 15 venom from a grief or treachury in cube it will have 315 average psn damage over 0,4 seconds.
315/0,4 = 787,5 dps. Lvl 8 psn dagger with venom = 5,2 seconds:
757,5*5,2 = 4095 psn damage over 5,2 seconds. So even with trang oul's, bramble precast and facet stuff in shield and helm its not gonna be effective :P

And the plague jav needs to directly impact the enemy for venom damage to take affect. Thats not really how they are used.
They are used to cover your ass and prevent enemy players for pushing you too hard. Or to lure them into the cloud.
Once psn'ed ur supposed to push enemy with whatever tool's is bests for the scenario:
Ga, Multi, Strafe, bolt, fury, cs.

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