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May 7 2024 08:01am
Quote (MultipleUser1 @ May 7 2024 10:56pm)
Gores makes no sense, gtoes are probably boots what you are looking for this.

Gtoes
CB25%,dr1,mdr1

Gore
FRW30%,OW10%,CB15%

I always use Gore and will never use Gtoes.
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Quote (gfybomber @ May 7 2024 01:44pm)
WELL im not quite sure if you got your facts straight but back in my day you would neeed exile last wish coa etc


What 😂 Since when COA EXILE LW was even opinion for UT Smiter :rofl: ?

LW Dmg sucks, even Aestron is better, Grief is supperior weapon choice. Exile is ” okay ” if you want extra safety with Life Tap ( not must to have ) and CoA makes no sense in place where ~99% of Dmg is elemental based.

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Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 7 2024 05:01pm)
Gtoes
CB25%,dr1,mdr1

Gore
FRW30%,OW10%,CB15%

I always use Gore and will never use Gtoes.


You already have OW% source ( Draguls ) so you are comparing 5% more Frw or 10% more CB :rolleyes:

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Quote (MultipleUser1 @ May 7 2024 11:04pm)
You already have OW% source ( Draguls ) so you are comparing 5% more Frw or 10% more CB :rolleyes:

Gtoes has no FRW unfortunately.
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Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 7 2024 05:12pm)
Gtoes has no FRW unfortunately.


Ohh my bad, somehow i messed up with WT’s Frw amount which is 25% Frw.

So you are comparing 30% FRW vs 10% CB for UT Smiter :)

Im still curious how that 30% frw is better choice than 10% CB for UT Smiter, personally i always use GToes for that purpose. Gores are opinion if i use crafted gloves ( Gores provide OW% in this case ) but tbh it has been years when i had a pair of nice CB gloves on smiter.
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Quote (MultipleUser1 @ May 7 2024 11:02pm)
What 😂 Since when COA EXILE LW was even opinion for UT Smiter :rofl: ?

LW Dmg sucks, even Aestron is better, Grief is supperior weapon choice. Exile is ” okay ” if you want extra safety with Life Tap ( not must to have ) and CoA makes no sense in place where ~99% of Dmg is elemental based.


Oh, I'd use LW if I had a spare. LW frees up your gloves, helm, armor and boots.

It is funny someone who prefers 10% more CB over 30FRW doesn't like LW, which at least offers 60% CB.
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Oh, I'd use LW if I had a spare. LW frees up your gloves, helm, armor and boots.

It is funny someone who prefers 10% more CB over 30FRW doesn't like LW, which at least offers 60% CB.


Guilli + GToes is 60% CB so LW makes no sense anymore :) Also LW have low damage comparing to Grief and LW costs like 3-4 times more in runes to make.

LW is only viable for Kick Assassin bcoz Grief’s +Dmg doesn’t work with DTalon if you are planning to make Ubers or if you have HDin with 1 point Smite and Fanactism then you can use LW so you dont need to change gear so much :)

Personally i don’t see any other use for LW in this game, there are better and cheaper opinions.

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Guilli + GToes is 60% CB so LW makes no sense anymore :) Also LW have low damage comparing to Grief and LW costs like 3-4 times more in runes to make.

LW is only viable for Kick Assassin bcoz Grief’s +Dmg doesn’t work with DTalon if you are planning to make Ubers or if you have HDin with 1 point Smite and Fanactism then you can use LW so you dont need to change gear so much :)

Personally i don’t see any other use for LW in this game, there are better and cheaper opinions.


Black, Heaven's Light and Fleshripper are way cheaper than Grief.

I've done Ubers with Beardruid, Wolf Druid, Bowaozon and FoHdin this season, and none of them uses Gface.
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Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 8 2024 01:07am)
Black, Heaven's Light and Fleshripper are way cheaper than Grief.

I've done Ubers with Beardruid, Wolf Druid, Bowaozon and FoHdin this season, and none of them uses Gface.


Those are good opinions and cheap/great weapons for UT char :) Im just saying that Grief is bis weapon in most cases and if you can get HR to your hand it’s better to do Grief than LW.

Example for Wolf Druid Fleshripper is really great and if you can find eth one Zod it my m8 :thumbsup:

Guillaumes is no more bis helm for Bear or Wolf Druid i think because Metamorphosis runeword came to D2R and in right base that helm is just amazing B)

Im not sure but it seems like that you are angry somehow and trying to argue with me.

First point here just was that your suggestion to use Draguls and Gores at UT Smiter makes no sense because you have OW% from Draguls and in this case GToes offers more GB% which is better to have than 30% FRW.

Also your suggested Black weapon together with Guilli and GToes provides total 100% of CB what is a key of cheap UT Smiter. So you can use any 4 soc elite paladin shield and soc it with PDiamonds, make Smoke to provide more Res and get also those Draguls for OW% and Life Tap, rest stuff can be what ever but SoE, Dwarf and Raven are highly recommended :)

I hope you have a nice day !

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Quote (MultipleUser1 @ May 8 2024 03:55pm)
Those are good opinions and cheap/great weapons for UT char :) Im just saying that Grief is bis weapon in most cases and if you can get HR to your hand it’s better to do Grief than LW.

Example for Wolf Druid Fleshripper is really great and if you can find eth one Zod it my m8 :thumbsup:

Guillaumes is no more bis helm for Bear or Wolf Druid i think because Metamorphosis runeword came to D2R and in right base that helm is just amazing B)

Im not sure but it seems like that you are angry somehow and trying to argue with me.

First point here just was that your suggestion to use Draguls and Gores at UT Smiter makes no sense because you have OW% from Draguls and in this case GToes offers more GB% which is better to have than 30% FRW.

Also your suggested Black weapon together with Guilli and GToes provides total 100% of CB what is a key of cheap UT Smiter. So you can use any 4 soc elite paladin shield and soc it with PDiamonds, make Smoke to provide more Res and get also those Draguls for OW% and Life Tap, rest stuff can be what ever but SoE, Dwarf and Raven are highly recommended :)

I hope you have a nice day !


It's you who said Gore doesn't make sense. FWR is more important than some CB % to me.

Also, attack speed > CB%, as you want to leech life after life tap proc'd. So I use Treachery in general instead of Smoke (not just for proc fade).

As for Shape shifter, Jalal is the helm as you need 300 LR(and CR) vs Uber Meph.

Bowazon uses Giant Skull, which is good for smiter too.

My FoHdin simply uses Shako. Heaven's Light(Shaelx2) + Gore are the only source for CB, and uses non-upgd HoZ. No issues at all.
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