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Feb 1 2024 03:18am
Quote (Ashirgo @ Jan 31 2024 11:31pm)
Btw, feel free to use the Hero Editor to prepare a godly single player character with the proposed items and let us know if you liked it for players8 gameplay


this actually sounds like a great idea, where can I find the manual for this hero editor ?
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this actually sounds like a great idea, where can I find the manual for this hero editor ?


Google d2 hero editor
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Feb 1 2024 11:45am
Eshuta/coh build > this
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Feb 1 2024 12:24pm
Quote (raudic @ Jan 31 2024 11:44am)
I found this very very interesting 7 min short vid on Nova sorc with Mang Song instead of Infinity self wield

stating it does much much more damage on non immunes AND only very little less on immunes.

I love the fact that it gives more stuff options on gloves and amu since you no longer need the FC ! BUT I would really like it if someone was able to compute this "very little less damage on immunes"

anyone capable of calculating this ?

here is the vid :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf-N9wlsYfo


Ive actually got 3 nova sorcs now.
1 traditional self weild infinirt + viper
2 enigma self weild infinitywith 2/20 amu and 2 10fcr rings (for mf purposes)
3 mang song 15%Light (just got it so didnt try it more then a few runs yet).

1 we all know how this works, great character but hard to push over 200mf (i got 209%mf)

2 actually works really good, now im super stacked with skillers+life and 7mf/17 mana sc so I dont know how good this is without. U loose 1 skill in total vs traditional viper build since u cant wear 2xsoj but enigma got +1 vs viper. The thing I really like about this except the mf part is that u actually gain a lot of life from enigma when u kill something. Great build and can really recommend it if u got good items, but u need a 2/20 amu for it too work. Got 295%mf Could push this even further but I havent found good fcr rings with much mf yet (7 + 13)

3 Just tried a few runs, baal etc and on 1 player it works perfectly fine. Sweeps everything without any mana issues. I can almost guarantee it kills baal faster then traditional self weild but Ive tried it too few times to actually be sure. The thing is I actually got lower mf then build 2 but since I use 2 soj instead of fcr + mf rings and Mangs instead of infinity (30mf). Mb its ok to socket an ist then u only loose the rings but idk if u want to put 5/5 facet instead for max dmg.

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 1 2024 12:25pm
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Quote (icnirac @ Feb 1 2024 07:24pm)
Ive actually got 3 nova sorcs now.
1 traditional self weild infinirt + viper
2 enigma self weild infinitywith 2/20 amu and 2 10fcr rings (for mf purposes)
3 mang song 15% (just got it so didnt try it more then a few runs yet).

1 we all know how this works, great character but hard to push over 200mf (i got 209%mf)

2 actually works really good, now im super stacked with skillers+life and 7mf/17 mana sc so I dont know how good this is without. U loose 1 skill in total since u cant wear 2xsoj but enigma got +1 vs viper. The thing I really like about this except the mf part is that u actually gain a lot of life from enigma when u kill something. Great build and can really recommend it if u got good items, but u need a 2/20 amu for it too work. Got 295%mf Could push this even further but I havent found good fcr rings with much mf yet (7 + 13)

3 Just tried a few runs, baal etc and on 1 player it works perfectly fine. Sweeps everything without any mana issues. I can almost guarantee it kills baal faster then traditional self weild but Ive tried it too few times to actually be sure. The thing is I actually got lower mf then build 2 but since I use 2 soj instead of fcr + mf rings and Mangs instead of infinity (30mf). Mb its ok to socket an ist then u only loose the rings but idk if u want to put 5/5 facet instead for max dmg.


hey thanks a lot for this !

you make me wanna try number 2 ^^

right know I just got to the point of classic build number 1 with +3 light/10fc and 2 sojs but I have absolutely no resist and poisons at -4res is currently an issue (I don't have all of the 7mf/res or 7mf mana etc, can"t yet afford that) --> 130mf and no res... I also sometimes get one shot in act5 (or maybe 2-3 hits in barely a second) despite being at 95% ES . I am also missing fhr, don't have any basically. I do more than enough damage and haven't socketed my griffon nor my viper yet, wanted to know what to put in those and I am thinking jewel 30psn res or 15all.

Don't really know what to improve right now, as the sc 7mf/ ... are still out of my wallet range.

Is number 2 build with Enigma more "viable" in terms of surviving or similar to 1 ?

would love to hear more on number 3 once you'll get a clearer impression !

This post was edited by raudic on Feb 1 2024 12:37pm
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Feb 1 2024 12:47pm
Quote (raudic @ Feb 1 2024 07:36pm)
hey thanks a lot for this !

you make me wanna try number 2 ^^

right know I just got to the point of classic build number 1 with +3 light/10fc and 2 sojs but I have absolutely no resist and poisons at -4res is currently an issue (I don't have all of the 7mf/res or 7mf mana etc, can"t yet afford that) --> 130mf and no res... I also sometimes get one shot in act5 (or maybe 2-3 hits in barely a second) despite being at 95% ES . I am also missing fhr, don't have any basically. I do more than enough damage and haven't socketed my griffon nor my viper yet, wanted to know what to put in those and I am thinking jewel 30psn res or 15all.

Don't really know what to improve right now, as the sc 7mf/ ... are still out of my wallet range.

Is number 2 build with Enigma more "viable" in terms of surviving or similar to 1 ?

would love to hear more on number 3 once you'll get a clearer impression !


I can handle 8player with #2 build so I would say its really good. U will have super bad resistance but since ES dont care about resistance it doesnt really matter. Its the poison thats the thing and for that u got cure on merc. I would say its similar in terms of surviving, mb a bit better since u gain life from killing.

What types of monster kills u? I feel unkillable if im not running in to a soul gang not prepared for them.

Ill make sure to update u about #3

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Quote (icnirac @ Feb 1 2024 07:47pm)
I can handle 8player with #2 build so I would say its really good. U will have super bad resistance but since ES dont care about resistance it doesnt really matter. Its the poison thats the thing and for that u got cure on merc. I would say its similar in terms of surviving, mb a bit better since u gain life from killing.

What types of monster kills u? I feel unkillable if im not running in to a soul gang not prepared for them.

Ill make sure to update u about #3


usually the ones killing me except souls are a group ou fast snakes with with their bone (or magical ?) spears , also the act5 Lords and their frenzy. I also sometimes am very close to bite the dust with the chaos sanctuary "flame thrower". I have 2400 mana now that I have 2 sojs. Thing is I could p improve my gameplay because sometimes I jump right in the middle of these tough guys and casting once or twice static before nova ends up being my cause of death (no stopping their attacks fast enough) , maybe I should avoid casting static in some cases if I see they have a damage increase aura for example ?

how much poison res do you have with build 1 and 2 ? currently with -5% my life is dropping very fast even with triple heal aura (used to be much more manageable with Mara and 2 * 15all GC instead of 3light skill and sojs). Probably just need to socket my viper with 30psn res jewel for starters. if not enough remove 1 or 2 skillers to put back my 15all GC. But then I won't be at 95%es anymore :D I never experienced such a build which is awesome but so delicate on gear changes ^^

This post was edited by raudic on Feb 1 2024 01:39pm
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Feb 1 2024 01:51pm
I play about the same tbh but I never stat before cause nova stuns enemies as well.

#1
Fr = +17
Cr = +17
Lr = -29
Pr = +17

#2
Fr = -36
Cr = -28
Lr = -100
Pr =-36

I really dont think resistance matter tbh. I am doing split mf runs now with #2, 8player game and I do worldstone + baal alone without any problem. Sure Baal is slow to kill but thats the downside of being a nova sorc. The only mobs I avoid in 8 player games are souls, just not worth it.

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 1 2024 01:54pm
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Feb 1 2024 02:19pm
Quote (icnirac @ Feb 1 2024 08:51pm)
I play about the same tbh but I never stat before cause nova stuns enemies as well.

#1
Fr = +17
Cr = +17
Lr = -29
Pr = +17

#2
Fr = -36
Cr = -28
Lr = -100
Pr =-36

I really dont think resistance matter tbh. I am doing split mf runs now with #2, 8player game and I do worldstone + baal alone without any problem. Sure Baal is slow to kill but thats the downside of being a nova sorc. The only mobs I avoid in 8 player games are souls, just not worth it.


thanks for the inputs ; I'll try resisting to use static (makes killing so much faster, doesn't stunt) and start Nova right away to see if I stop dying.

How much mana and life do you have ?
Do you agree that with PR -36 your life actually goes down pretty fast ?
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Quote (raudic @ Feb 1 2024 09:19pm)
thanks for the inputs ; I'll try resisting to use static (makes killing so much faster, doesn't stunt) and start Nova right away to see if I stop dying.

How much mana and life do you have ?
Do you agree that with PR -36 your life actually goes down pretty fast ?


Its also cause im too lazy to stat all the time tbh :D I do it on the waves at baal etc but almost never at regular mobs.

Sometimes yes but as long as I kill stuff it gives me life and usually goes away pretty fast due to cure.

I got 9xx life dont remember mana but mb around 2,5k-2,6k with enigma build i think

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 1 2024 02:55pm
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