This man low mf high kill speed just farm and they'll drop weather it's cows, cs, wsk, lk, trav, tz where ever just grind and kill but mostly hf

kill in tc 85 areas in full games with highest clear speed, also areas that have ghosts have improved drop rates because the drop tables for that monster is narrowed making chaos the best place in the game for hrs.

chaos has static maps, tc 85, champ packs, unique packs, high monster density, diablo

dont skip clearing monsters in chaos and just pop seals, clear all monsters in full games then hit diablo then hit nith.

you can find all items in the entire game in one area

Great points.

So when doing Chaos runs, you should actually kill all monsters in River before getting to Chaos in Act 4 ... use the second waypoint and go down the stairs to start run at the beginning of River.

Other areas in Act 5 Hell is using the portal to Pindleskin and clearing all 3 levels down to Nihlathok ... remember not to gain the wapoint during the levels to Nihlathok, otherwise you will lose the read portal to pindleskin and have to go up first to kill him and then down (that is if you can do this withou dying). ... note: as for group runs, you may come up with your own conclusions, like obtaining the waypoint, ignore Pindleskin and go for Nihlathok... this works if you have Maphack.

Oh... you can also kill monsters in the levels to Baal while others just teleport there.

There are other areas, like Tower, Tristam etc.

not exactly

you want high density and high player count. so for example, river generally doesnt have that great of density, and people arent going to sit around while you clear all of worldstone (unless your multiboxing) thats why:
cows/chaos/TZ tombs

if you are stuck on p1, horking trav is going to be your best bet

if your on single player, nothing comes close to LK

dont worry about losing the red portal in act 5 you can just teleport from halls warp to grab it

i do clear from river warp to chaos because river has the same tc as chaos (85) the monster density is not high but it adds more monsters cleared per game.


using a gold find barb to clear trav is a total waste of time its too slow even with find item after to get a double drop. i still have a barb in game but hes poping all super chests because barbs are sooo bad pvm except for support roles or pk.

Isn't is still lower kurast?

Oh... so you are wanting Best drops based on players in the game... so if you joined a game with 6 players (you being the 7th) ... you have the highest drop quantity but... but... the monster level is reduced to like 7 players in game and not 8... thus it increases your Killspeed to clear things like Hell Pits... Pindleskin to Nihlathok ... and if you have Maphack... Tower and Tristram (Hell) or just choose places like River / Worldstone level 1/2 & 3 etc while the rest are continuing with Chaos and Baal Runs ... if you work it out properly ... you can enter when they kill off Diablo and Baal... remember, in a group run, they open up a TP for you to enter ... oh, you can also kill Hell Shenk if you have the waypoint... go up... kill the Unique monster pack and then kill off Shenk... and if you have the red portal (or the creator of the game) ... you can kill off Pindleskin.

It isn't rocket science... you use the fastest Waypoints to certain monsters... and if your killspeed is extremely high, you may even jump to Trav and kill council for other items.



Oh... really... you should NEVER join a full group (8) ... you can get the same drop Quality / Quantity in a 6+ group.

i thought this was about HRs. unique hunting is NOT the best way to find HRs, you want to clear density. this is exactly why newer players can never seem to find HRs

and sure, p7 is technically better than p8 for drops as you kill a touch faster. have fun finding games that are consistently p7...

The biggest mistake to Rune hunting is the fact that 90% of the players choose to have Magic Find items ... you can use a bowazon with 50% MF from Trav boots, but at least it increases their kill speed... but not that useful for some Casting builds like sorcs, hammerdins and even a barbarian (telezerk) ... Chaos Sanctuary is their main HR hunting area... however, Tower is also a great area to kill monsters, especially when they can spawn a lot of Spirit type monsters and you don't lose drops like in act 3.

It is up to the player and their build where they can hunt for HR's while being in a Full Group (or 6 player game) ... even Tristam in Hell Act 1 can drop an Ohm rune (think that was the highest I found in v1.09)

thx for all the input now the next questions....
what char is the best for clearspeed(hr running)
-bowzone
-boner nec
-ele druid?

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