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Mar 23 2023 12:36pm
Quote (Schindluder @ Mar 23 2023 06:57pm)
cow needs no mf at all, since u r aiming for sockatables and high runes. squeeze out as much damage as u can, so ormus with cold damage (blizzard would be ideal but expensive) / nightwings (3 cold circ) / 2x spirit or better / 2x bk (cheaper then soj) / 3 cold amu / snow clash belt.
keep in mind that cows is for the ladder start only, right now u r too inferior to any java / auradin.

dont forget these new sunder great charms ;-)

later on, if ur equip is decent, switch to frost nova or nova while doing terror zones. teleport from rare mob to rare mob, leave the rest alive.

setup for nova / life: sunder light, griffons, crescent moon, spirit shield, arach, magefist, 2 sorc 10 fcr amu, 2x bk, skullder (enigma later on). hybrids with 2-3x tal ( amu, armour, orb, in that order) exist. important is the 105 fcr- cap. high dps variants for multiplayers with nova ormus do exist.

setup for ice nova: alibaba "ist ist" / skullders / spirit shield / arach / magefist / circ: cold skills + 20 fcr / amu : sorc + 10 fcr / 2x bk. high dps- variants with death fathom + nightwings and eventually ice nova ormus do exist.

since u need a lot of strength for the spirit shield, an ethereal upped skullders is a viable option for u.


Thanks for the info, a Nova Sorceress does sound like fun. I'll look into it's viability. I've decided that I do want MF on my gear since I'd like to be able to use her elsewhere as well, maybe for Mephisto runs. I'd like to create a Javazon specifically for Cow runs, where no MF is needed.

So with that said, I think an IST'ed Ali Baba and a Rhyme shield on switch would be the most optimal. For general PVE/MF and Mephisto (since Pindleskin is no longer an option), would Fireball/Meteor or Blizzard be my best bet, you think?
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Mar 23 2023 01:00pm
fireball / meteor is just bad. u wiill need at least fire sunder + phoenix + several fire facets before u deal damage to immunes. tc 85 areas with no fire immunes are really rare and take a long way to teleport at. than u have to find a safe place to wait for a meteor or u need to aim several fireballs to clear a rare mob with his pack. blizzard is way cheaper and easier to start, cold provides additional safety and provided a decent gear, nova has the greater quality of life. no targeting is needed and everything in the area is dead within 1-2 seconds.
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Mar 23 2023 01:05pm
Quote (Schindluder @ Mar 23 2023 08:00pm)
fireball / meteor is just bad. u wiill need at least fire sunder + phoenix + several fire facets before u deal damage to immunes. tc 85 areas with no fire immunes are really rare and take a long way to teleport at. than u have to find a safe place to wait for a meteor or u need to aim several fireballs to clear a rare mob with his pack. blizzard is way cheaper and easier to start, cold provides additional safety and provided a decent gear, nova has the greater quality of life. no targeting is needed and everything in the area is dead within 1-2 seconds.


Would a complete Tal's set work alright on a Nova Sorceress? Let's say I add a mercenary with Infinity to that in the future, would the Tal's set hold up, you think?
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Mar 24 2023 11:10am
i used to clear pindle every baal run back at launch and still do on hc at ladder reset. in thousands of kills i've gotten a ber rune off one of his minions. probably just bad luck but for me i haven't seen him drop anything good in d2r
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Quote (itsmattlol @ Mar 24 2023 06:10pm)
i used to clear pindle every baal run back at launch and still do on hc at ladder reset. in thousands of kills i've gotten a ber rune off one of his minions. probably just bad luck but for me i haven't seen him drop anything good in d2r


He's never dropped a single HR for me, but he dropped about 85%+ of my Holy Grail. His best drop was a perfect Windforce, and everything below that came regularly. I'm leaning towards not having him as my go-to MF spot. Soloing Mephi, Diablo and Baal might be better for me. But as I asked above, would a Tal's set and an Infinity merc be enough to clear the throne room or chaos sanctuary? Could I keep using Blizzard or would I have to respec into nova or something?
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Mar 24 2023 11:52am
Quote (Oakenbeard @ Mar 24 2023 01:50pm)
He's never dropped a single HR for me, but he dropped about 85%+ of my Holy Grail. His best drop was a perfect Windforce, and everything below that came regularly. I'm leaning towards not having him as my go-to MF spot. Soloing Mephi, Diablo and Baal might be better for me. But as I asked above, would a Tal's set and an Infinity merc be enough to clear the throne room or chaos sanctuary? Could I keep using Blizzard or would I have to respec into nova or something?


not sure how blizz is now, haven't played it since before the first ladder season, but i was able to do it back then. would just need the merc to kill cold immunes. now with sunder it's probably easier.
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Mar 24 2023 11:59am
Quote (itsmattlol @ Mar 24 2023 06:52pm)
not sure how blizz is now, haven't played it since before the first ladder season, but i was able to do it back then. would just need the merc to kill cold immunes. now with sunder it's probably easier.


Would the Infinity on the merc deal with the cold immunes rather than using a sunder charm, you think?
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Mar 24 2023 12:00pm
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Would the Infinity on the merc deal with the cold immunes rather than using a sunder charm, you think?


i don't know, i just had an insight merc back then lol. once i had infinity i moved on to java
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