? The people who trade top end items want as many people to find those top end items as possible. That way, you don't always have to overpay in the Asian marketplace or something to get them. If you keep a GG item on sale for too long (48 hours or more), basically everyone will retract and move on. This is mostly poor and inaccurate advice.

Deciphering what items are actually good, top-tier, and valuable is indeed a very hard task that requires extensive knowledge of the game and its mechanics. Good luck

That doesn't make any sense.

It's basic auction theory which many people have done research on. It's also human psychology. People retract offers in big hyped up auctions for three reasons:

1) Adrenaline rush over cool/GG items end
2) Buyer's remorse sets in, especially after adrenaline rush is over
3) People find similar (and oftentimes, better) alternatives for the same price (or cheaper)

This happens all the time when novice players attempt to sell something good and let the auction run for weeks on end. I can recall this happening several times on jsp but the threads range from anywhere 1-12 months old and would be hard to find now.

The auctions for the best items aren't even on d2jsp. They are run in auctions abroad that last a total of 10 min or so and end abruptly. And they often sell for 100k+ fg equivalent.

This post was edited by Koston on Mar 24 2023 12:40pm

But this is not an auction page. And it's just ridiculous to bring up "psychology" in this topic, although i do realize that is part of it to an extent. But not in the way you portray it here.

Letting an item run for a while will not let people run away. One simply states this in the topic, that one will let it run for a while to get the best or the most correct price.

If one goes out and tries to quick sell something, and then suddenly goes cold, then yes i agree, that is deterring for future sales. But that usually goes down to personal reputation as well. People in specialized markets notice these things.

Yeah whatever dude

d2jsp is made up of threads and every single thread, in essence, is an auction (besides threads where seller of item is only accepting a BIN). So yes, auction theory and the basic human psychology it rests upon is applicable here. Lol. The problem with jsp is that the auctions' rules aren't standardized and they are determined by the seller of the item, so you get various auction end times (sometimes 24 hours, sometimes 48, sometimes week, up to the seller). Sometimes auctions have no end time (this is detrimental for the seller for the reasons I stated prior). Sometimes you have an open-ended auction but there's a BIN. and sometimes there's no auction and there is only a BIN.

Almost every sale for a very GG top-tier item on D2R has had their sale ruined when the seller waits an exorbitant amount of time to sell. Anyone that frequently browses the trade forums and keeps up with the GG items is aware of that. If I wanted to use time to do it, I could pull several examples even from threads with not crazy GG items but people who just waited too long to sell something, had the higher offers retract, and had to take a lower offer.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98498711&f=145

Literal prime example that I remembered since I was interested in this item. Couldn't get the owner to consider any offers for weeks on end. I think he sold for less than half of what his top offer was in the end.

This post was edited by Koston on Mar 24 2023 12:49pm

It's not an auction because there is no time constraint. If it has that, then yes, it is an auction. But not every thread has that.

Semantics. Everything I said was true/valid and can be applied to that example.

Bs. Be clear about what you write about from the beginning. Not every trade thread is an auction, only those that specifies that and with a time limit.

This post was edited by Taurean on Mar 24 2023 01:15pm

I was very clear and stand by everything I said, lul. I made a claim and provided evidence to back it up based on theory/examples. It doesn't matter that not every single thread is an auction. Sometimes there is just a BIN and it's open-ended otherwise, which isn't technically an auction either. My point is if you have an open-ended and vague auction (or trade thread), your high offers will eventually retract and you'll be stuck taking a lower offer in the end. Happens every time.