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end game generalistic java

main hand: eth titan OR titan OR 6/40 + 1 in cube (u can mix the set up as well, wich make you slightly more flex. I do like eth titan +6/40 & wisp in cube for general PvM)

off hand: spirit or jmoc or jmod

swap: cta with spirit or eth spirit (normal titan+spirit user) or phoenix (again if you use spirit on java side you don't tele on cta side, so you can consider phoenix on swap but is kinda meh IMO)

head: griffon with 15/15 or 15/3maek or 15/40 (very niche, but ED & AR are a minor prop if you use eth titan with ML ringo)

gloves: 3/20 or crafted caster 2/20/3maek

amu: hlord

rings: raven + fcr pvm ringo (if you don't use spirit MANA add is a must, ML is a consideration build around with eth titan)

belt: razortail

boots: silkweave for 5maek, 3res 30frw rare or WT (again, niche for ML variant ringo using eth titans)

inventory: torch/anni/cube/tome of identify/sunder/gheed/if you wish 1 key slot

Skillers: 7frw or life depending on your balance

SC: affixes should be 3frw or 7mf or 20life & suffixes 17mana or 5@ or 3max/20ar (niche for ML/LL eth titan variant)

Emilio: infy/coh/cure with either prayer/holy freeze or might (eth titan ML/LL variant)


General Spirit set up https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/tb0206ng -> max vita / no ML / tele on java side

General Jmod set up https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/bf0106ls -> max block then vita / ML / tele on cta side

ofc you can mix & match. Jmoc just play like a spirit set up (max vita) while teleporting on switch.

This is basically the old school java with 68fcr & 55ias for the most commonly used breakpoints, enjoy!

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Personally i would use JMoC over JMoD, getting max block is pointless imo. Anyway above setups are way to go for PvM Java.
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Quote (Soppamies @ Feb 25 2023 08:18am)
Personally i would use JMoC over JMoD, getting max block is pointless imo. Anyway above setups are way to go for PvM Java.


yeah, I'm on the jmoc club even for eth titan / ML leeching, this is my java: guess I'm gonna share for some stupid ideas, obv this is NL:

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/qi0106wz


some choices are at the very least sub optimal, but at endgame you can pretty much do w/ever you want with her so I went full hipster :rofl:

Here I tried to mix BOTH the ML theme and the 6/40 swap, as I said back in d2l days java was prob the pvm char I played the most, and while pure 6/40 vita set ups are good (and bis for power exping).

People tend to overhype them vs how much QoL titans actually gives you (in a generalistic set up anyway) as well as jeweler monarchs vs spiirt. Prob couz most of them never actually owned a 6/40 or a jmod and consider them a chase myth of some sort ;)

I do lack some LR for baal running considering my hipster SC pics but nowadays I do baalrun very little anyway since I found it boring as hell, not gonna lie.

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Quote (Banjoco @ Feb 25 2023 01:07am)
end game generalistic java

main hand: eth titan OR titan OR 6/40 + 1 in cube (u can mix the set up as well, wich make you slightly more flex. I do like eth titan +6/40 & wisp in cube for general PvM)

off hand: spirit or jmoc or jmod

swap: cta with spirit or eth spirit (normal titan+spirit user) or phoenix (again if you use spirit on java side you don't tele on cta side, so you can consider phoenix on swap but is kinda meh IMO)

head: griffon with 15/15 or 15/3maek or 15/40 (very niche, but ED & AR are a minor prop if you use eth titan with ML ringo)

gloves: 3/20 or crafted caster 2/20/3maek

amu: hlord

rings: raven + fcr pvm ringo (if you don't use spirit MANA add is a must, ML is a consideration build around with eth titan)

belt: razortail

boots: silkweave for 5maek, 3res 30frw rare or WT (again, niche for ML variant ringo using eth titans)

inventory: torch/anni/cube/tome of identify/sunder/gheed/if you wish 1 key slot

Skillers: 7frw or life depending on your balance

SC: affixes should be 3frw or 7mf or 20life & suffixes 17mana or 5@ or 3max/20ar (niche for ML/LL eth titan variant)

Emilio: infy/coh/cure with either prayer/holy freeze or might (eth titan ML/LL variant)


General Spirit set up https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/tb0206ng -> max vita / no ML / tele on java side

General Jmod set up https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/bf0106ls -> max block then vita / ML / tele on cta side

ofc you can mix & match. Jmoc just play like a spirit set up (max vita) while teleporting on switch.

This is basically the old school java with 68fcr & 55ias for the most commonly used breakpoints, enjoy!


Quote (Soppamies @ Feb 25 2023 02:18am)
Personally i would use JMoC over JMoD, getting max block is pointless imo. Anyway above setups are way to go for PvM Java.


wait no pheonix shield??
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wait no pheonix shield??



the top "lazy" set up is titan (non eth) plus cubed titan (non eth) plus spirit on java side and phoenix cta side.

It does works nicely even if it is less DPS, ofc, compared to jewelers. It has the big prop to tele on java side AND to retain phoenix on swap (at the cost of 2 skill points of cta buffer).

With phoenix MH you lose yet another "up to" 112 mana, a gazilion res, some vitality and 2 skillers point PLUS you have to tele on cta side wich is the main SLOP of jmoc/jmod.


Spirit >> phoenix on java side any day of the week, unless you want to play super chill and gimpse yourself into oblivion. You asked for BiS set up and I answered back (at least concerning the "classic" 68fcr/55ias gear combo)

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Quote (Banjoco @ Feb 25 2023 09:20am)
the top "lazy" set up is titan (non eth) plus cubed titan (non eth) plus spirit java side and phoenix cta side.

It does works nicely even if it is less DPS, ofc. with phoenix MH you lose yet another "up to" 112 mana, a gazilion res, some vitality and 2 skillers point PLUS you have to tele on cta side.


Spirit >> phoenix on java side any day of the week, unless you want to play super chill and gimpse yourself into oblivion. You asked for BiS set up and I answered back (at least concerning the "classic" 68fcr/55ias gear combo)


fckk me i made a phx lol guess i go sell it. how muhc is a jmoc on ladder?
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Quote (iamkritikal @ Feb 25 2023 03:21pm)
fckk me i made a phx lol guess i go sell it. how muhc is a jmoc on ladder?


dont sell. use titan/spirit main plus cta/phoenix switch. tele on java side and if you feel like you need to rec switch to cta/phoenix and you are full in 1 second.

as I said, it's a totally legit set up that comes with it's own props, in this case you tele on java side (better then to tele on switch like you do with jmoc/jmod) AND you use redemption aura when you need. at the low, low cost of 2 points of skills of cta buffer compared to a spirit+spirit set up ^^


jmoc/jmod would be insanely expensive at this point of the ladder, don't even bother. Plus they are not always better then spirit, it does depend on what you farm. That's why I do consider jmoc/jmod/spirit & 6-40/titan/eTitan all viable and legit even if you are the richiest d2r pvm player ever. There is not a "bis" winner 24/7 if you want to keep your build flex.

This post was edited by Banjoco on Feb 25 2023 08:39am
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