Was just running some numbers on maxroll and from all measurables hoto + phoenix with infinity on merc is way better than using infinity on sorc. Being able to swap in hoto and coh with an extra soj and still hit the 105 bp means you can easily hit max res with way more mana too. Does maxroll not factor in conviction when on the character? Is infinity just that OP vs bosses?

Maxroll In general provides bad info.

Self wielding infinity on nova sorc is by far the best option.

The only resist that matters on an ES nova sorc is poison.

There was a very long topic about it where someone did a lot of testing and all the math. Was gg topic. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.

Maybe someone can help?

I thought I had seen that at one point too but didnt care about light sorcs at the time so I lost track of it

Any chance we find it?

Unless someone has it bookmarked or you remember what was around it, chances are slim to none

Handheld is too strong, not just for the conviction, but negative LR applied from the weapon.

Hoto is okay for low playercount, but negative LR carries full games.

Also, COH is trash, get res from other items and use something else.

This post was edited by Rws on Dec 13 2022 06:20am

2 skills, 20 str, dr, mf, and massive res. Far from trash. Ormus would be better damage wise, but CoH is still a good option.

I don't play a lot on P8 so I didn't realize -LR would make more impact than massively increasing damage, this is also my first time running ES so I'm not super well versed in it's mechanics

Running hoto, phoenix, coh, 2x soj and frosties has increased damage by a bit over 50%, maxed out poison res, and massively increased mana (plus IMO redem > medi) which seems like a net benefit over -55 LR

coh is an absolutely horrible option, and ormus is generally worse than viper. phoenix is the worst runeword in the game, only viable on certain melee pvp builds

infy > any other weps both from a damage standpoint and a utility standpoint. your bulk damage output comes from your -lr, not your + sks.

standard nova build:
infy
griff
viper
arach
mages
sands/rare pr boots
sojs
10 fcr amu

random insight merc

this is simple game basics. you making up your own math to fit your dogshit build doesn't change the fact that it's a dogshit, inefficient build. when you're clearly new to the game you should be more open to feedback from people who know what they're talking about

While your attempt at gatekeeping is humorous, especially as a '21 spawn, and your overcompensation is even funnier, simply insulting someone and throwing out a cookie cutter build that literally everyone already knows is pointless.

Regardless of whether or not you are smart enough to read numbers, 27k DPS is greater than 21k DPS. So if someone is asking for assistance as to where the number crunching may be wrong or what may be missed, rather than being a cock guzzler who thinks their post count equates to penis size; how about you provide 1 even slightly relevant statement towards the conversation? Though the fact you think phoenix is trash tells me everything I need to know about your knowledge of the game.