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Oct 19 2022 08:31am
So i'm hearing these hybrids are all the rage now and pub stomp anything, does anyone have a link to any of these builds for pub duels ?
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Oct 19 2022 10:59am
It's quite straight forward.

Your two main goals are 7fpa and 68fcr.

Shadow/diamond Faith + 45ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max.
or
Mat Faith + 2zon/30ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max (other addons are welcome, like all res, dex, etc)

You can mix Mat+45ias/20fcr+Trangs to open belt slot (dungo/tgod) and makes you psn stronger.

Enigma
Arach
2zon 18+fcr ammy
Raven
Fcr ring
WT
2pm/20ias/kb gloves (2jav can be an option as well)
Eth upped titans with high ed roll + ss/spirit/swordback
CTA in a cube

Get some fhr and frw sc's but you don't need that much run speed as people used to stack on classic zon.
Rest ofc fill with max/ar/life.

Keep in stash eq for specific matchups like single res charms/tiaras. If you know little bit pvp then you will know whats you need.

Stats - str for eq, dex for mb, rest in vita.

Skills:
JAV - 1 impale, 1 fury, 20 plague, 20 synergy
BOW - 20 GA, 1 strafe, Multi to have 24arrows and later everything what left
P&M - crit to hit ~70%, 1 in the rest. What left in DEA.

Some leagues not allow plague at all, in others you can't put more than 1 point in synergy. In that situation just max Multi and put rest in DEA.

Somewhere in Strategies should be Telebowa Ceejay's guide. It's basically the same build with little bit different skill tree.

Thing is any good bowazon should use jav skills otherwise you will be fucked in many matchups. Many people thinks titans/ss swap is just for runaway. They are always confused when I'm telling them its hybrid even if I use only impale and fury (1 hard point each) lol.

This post was edited by gratek on Oct 19 2022 11:10am
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Quote (gratek @ Oct 19 2022 06:59pm)
It's quite straight forward.

Your two main goals are 7fpa and 68fcr.

Shadow/diamond Faith + 45ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max.
or
Mat Faith + 2zon/30ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max (other addons are welcome, like all res, dex, etc)

You can mix Mat+45ias/20fcr+Trangs to open belt slot (dungo/tgod) and makes you psn stronger.

Enigma
Arach
2zon 18+fcr ammy
Raven
Fcr ring
WT
2pm/20ias/kb gloves (2jav can be an option as well)
Eth upped titans with high ed roll + ss/spirit/swordback
CTA in a cube

Get some fhr and frw sc's but you don't need that much run speed as people used to stack on classic zon.
Rest ofc fill with max/ar/life.

Keep in stash eq for specific matchups like single res charms/tiaras. If you know little bit pvp then you will know whats you need.

Stats - str for eq, dex for mb, rest in vita.

Skills:
JAV - 1 impale, 1 fury, 20 plague, 20 synergy
BOW - 20 GA, 1 strafe, Multi to have 24arrows and later everything what left
P&M - crit to hit ~70%, 1 in the rest. What left in DEA.

Some leagues not allow plague at all, in others you can't put more than 1 point in synergy. In that situation just max Multi and put rest in DEA.

Somewhere in Strategies should be Telebowa Ceejay's guide. It's basically the same build with little bit different skill tree.

Thing is any good bowazon should use jav skills otherwise you will be fucked in many matchups. Many people thinks titans/ss swap is just for runaway. They are always confused when I'm telling them its hybrid even if I use only impale and fury (1 hard point each) lol.


Thanks my man, apreciate it. I tried Ceejay's build over here but i get deleted by melees. Barbs and melee paladins just tele stomp and lock me and i can't even fire an arrow, no time for anything even with 68 fcr. Also, Ceejay's build has very low resistances, idk what he does vs casters to get like 50-60 res each time.

This post was edited by TheHyperion on Oct 20 2022 02:37am
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Quote (TheHyperion @ Oct 20 2022 10:35am)
Thanks my man, apreciate it. I tried Ceejay's build over here but i get deleted by melees. Barbs and melee paladins just tele stomp and lock me and i can't even fire an arrow, no time for anything even with 68 fcr. Also, Ceejay's build has very low resistances, idk what he does vs casters to get like 50-60 res each time.


Even classic bowa should handle with melees except smiters. Good Hybrid sin can be really hard but you can beat her.
Walk instead run (running cut your block to 25%), swap to shield side, fury them or impale if they come closer. Use bow only on long range and don't let them stomp on you when you are on bow side (you will be done in a second).
Actually you should slaughter easily in that way the most of pubs barbs. Plague make this easier.

Playing zon you should be prepared to gear/charms swap depending on matchup. She's not a caster with (almost) free 75 all res from hoto+spirit and one gear vs all.
Except tvt there is no point to stack all resistances maxed.

On mine I can reach 75res in that way:
30 anya
20 torch
20 anni
15 faith
18 ammy
11 fcr ring
15 diadem
20 4x 3frw/5@
=149@
+ I have nice trires gloves 20ias/kb/<30 fr/lr/cr but you can gear a tri res boots.

It's not difficult but you get to spend some fg and time for searching a proper gear.

However way easier is just to overstack one res vs one type of caster you faced.
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Oct 22 2022 12:12pm
Quote (gratek @ Oct 20 2022 12:01pm)
Even classic bowa should handle with melees except smiters. Good Hybrid sin can be really hard but you can beat her.
Walk instead run (running cut your block to 25%), swap to shield side, fury them or impale if they come closer. Use bow only on long range and don't let them stomp on you when you are on bow side (you will be done in a second).
Actually you should slaughter easily in that way the most of pubs barbs. Plague make this easier.

Playing zon you should be prepared to gear/charms swap depending on matchup. She's not a caster with (almost) free 75 all res from hoto+spirit and one gear vs all.
Except tvt there is no point to stack all resistances maxed.

On mine I can reach 75res in that way:
30 anya
20 torch
20 anni
15 faith
18 ammy
11 fcr ring
15 diadem
20 4x 3frw/5@
=149@
+ I have nice trires gloves 20ias/kb/<30 fr/lr/cr but you can gear a tri res boots.

It's not difficult but you get to spend some fg and time for searching a proper gear.

However way easier is just to overstack one res vs one type of caster you faced.


Sweet! Gotta look into it. By the way, is there sort of an optimal DAE number where you are super hard to get hit by stuff? No matter how BM it is, i'd rather lower the Guided Arrow dmg by not investing into Multi or Plague synergy and be very, very hard to hit.
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Oct 22 2022 12:38pm
There is no such thing like BM level of DEA :)

Keep you offensive skill strong!

With Mat bow setup you should reach around +16 to p&m skills.

1 hard point: 54% / 63% / 53%
10 hard points: 59% / 68% / 59%
20 hard points: 61% / 71% / 61%

Difference is quite marginal.


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Oct 22 2022 12:42pm
Quote (gratek @ Oct 22 2022 08:38pm)
There is no such thing like BM level of DEA :)

Keep you offensive skill strong!

With Mat bow setup you should reach around +16 to p&m skills.

1 hard point: 54% / 63% / 53%
10 hard points: 59% / 68% / 59%
20 hard points: 61% / 71% / 61%

Difference is quite marginal.


Thank you for all your insight, friend.
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Oct 23 2022 06:52am
Quote (gratek @ Oct 22 2022 08:38pm)
There is no such thing like BM level of DEA :)

Keep you offensive skill strong!

With Mat bow setup you should reach around +16 to p&m skills.

1 hard point: 54% / 63% / 53%
10 hard points: 59% / 68% / 59%
20 hard points: 61% / 71% / 61%

Difference is quite marginal.


Do you happen to know how i can find out how much IAS i need from gear with a lvl 13 aura Fanaticism in a Shadow Bow? I got 45 from helm, 20 from gloves and apparently lvl 13 Fanaticism gives off a 32 increase in IAS. So that's 45+20+32=97 but i can't find for the life of me the breakpoints for a shadow bow, to know if i'm good or not.

Another question, between War Travs and Gore Riders, which one would you choose for which circumstances?
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Oct 23 2022 07:19am
Quote (gratek @ Oct 19 2022 12:59pm)
It's quite straight forward.

Your two main goals are 7fpa and 68fcr.

Shadow/diamond Faith + 45ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max.
or
Mat Faith + 2zon/30ias/20fcr tiara with ed or max (other addons are welcome, like all res, dex, etc)

You can mix Mat+45ias/20fcr+Trangs to open belt slot (dungo/tgod) and makes you psn stronger.

Enigma
Arach
2zon 18+fcr ammy
Raven
Fcr ring
WT
2pm/20ias/kb gloves (2jav can be an option as well)
Eth upped titans with high ed roll + ss/spirit/swordback
CTA in a cube

Get some fhr and frw sc's but you don't need that much run speed as people used to stack on classic zon.
Rest ofc fill with max/ar/life.

Keep in stash eq for specific matchups like single res charms/tiaras. If you know little bit pvp then you will know whats you need.

Stats - str for eq, dex for mb, rest in vita.

Skills:
JAV - 1 impale, 1 fury, 20 plague, 20 synergy
BOW - 20 GA, 1 strafe, Multi to have 24arrows and later everything what left
P&M - crit to hit ~70%, 1 in the rest. What left in DEA.

Some leagues not allow plague at all, in others you can't put more than 1 point in synergy. In that situation just max Multi and put rest in DEA.

Somewhere in Strategies should be Telebowa Ceejay's guide. It's basically the same build with little bit different skill tree.

Thing is any good bowazon should use jav skills otherwise you will be fucked in many matchups. Many people thinks titans/ss swap is just for runaway. They are always confused when I'm telling them its hybrid even if I use only impale and fury (1 hard point each) lol.


thanks for posting


also looking to make one of these

which bow shadow vs diamond would you say is better and why if using 20fcr circ?

also i have a full inventory of max/ar/life that i can share with my bvc, you think id be okay with that and no frw scs if not about how much frw from inv?
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Oct 23 2022 07:48am
Quote (TheHyperion @ Oct 23 2022 02:52pm)
Do you happen to know how i can find out how much IAS i need from gear with a lvl 13 aura Fanaticism in a Shadow Bow? I got 45 from helm, 20 from gloves and apparently lvl 13 Fanaticism gives off a 32 increase in IAS. So that's 45+20+32=97 but i can't find for the life of me the breakpoints for a shadow bow, to know if i'm good or not.

Another question, between War Travs and Gore Riders, which one would you choose for which circumstances?


https://d2.lc/IAS/

WT are bis
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