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Oct 17 2022 04:05pm
I realize that the usual debate says eschutas sucks, hoto good.... but with sunder charms , it seems like the socket for a facet is more valuable now? I dont have an infinity(yet), but have -25 from griff and 1 or 2 sockets(chest and weapon if I use eschuta)

in this scenario, it seems like the socket on eschutas is incredibly valuable compared to hoto. Going from 30% dmg to 35% dmg is huge? With a 2nd one in the chest I would be at 40%...

I want to see what I can accomplish without an infinity before later getting one, assuming it stacks and I get the full benefit? does it? outside facets and infintiy I cant lower the -res further , making the socket very valuable?

Thoughts on this? what would you do? is this going to suck without infinity? Aside from bosses, everything is melting and i dont even have skillers yet

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Oct 17 2022 04:11pm
hoto has 30-40 res and other things.

it's not even close.
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Oct 17 2022 04:13pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Oct 17 2022 04:11pm)
hoto has 30-40 res and other things.

it's not even close.


im not too concerned about resistances(the 20 rep life is more appealing to me tbh)... the concern is that the facet socketed increases my dmg theoretically by 16.66%(ignoring the +light dmg on the facet)

/e againt broken immunities(which will be the hardest thing for me to kill)

This post was edited by Dryzmok on Oct 17 2022 04:15pm
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Oct 17 2022 04:19pm
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im not too concerned about resistances(the 20 rep life is more appealing to me tbh)... the concern is that the facet socketed increases my dmg theoretically by 16.66%(ignoring the +light dmg on the facet)

/e againt broken immunities(which will be the hardest thing for me to kill)


sounds like you made up your mind but you would like (some) people to agree with you.

:)
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Oct 17 2022 04:22pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Oct 17 2022 04:19pm)
sounds like you made up your mind but you would like (some) people to agree with you.

:)


I want to consider this debate in the scope of season 2 and sunder charms now. I think the debate has changed because without infinity the facets werent very good b4... looking for someone to correct me if im wrong about something. I tried googling this but everything is 10 years old etc.

Thx for trying to help, will probably just put a -5/3 in the eschutas and try it out i guess. I was about to put a 5/5 in but i dont wanna waste it if im somehow wrong about the -res calculation. Looking to understand how infinity stacks with sunder too... can you even get mobs to more than -100res? idk
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Oct 17 2022 04:29pm
Quote (Dryzmok @ Oct 17 2022 11:22pm)
I want to consider this debate in the scope of season 2 and sunder charms now. I think the debate has changed because without infinity the facets werent very good b4... looking for someone to correct me if im wrong about something. I tried googling this but everything is 10 years old etc.

Thx for trying to help, will probably just put a -5/3 in the eschutas and try it out i guess. I was about to put a 5/5 in but i dont wanna waste it if im somehow wrong about the -res calculation. Looking to understand how infinity stacks with sunder too... can you even get mobs to more than -100res? idk


having a facet slot is good. however +10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage is quite weak imo.

I think overall hoto surpasses this by a lot. if you don't need anything from the hoto survivability... then go eschutas.
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Oct 17 2022 09:15pm
if you can reach 200fc without fc on weapon, crescent moon might be decent
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Oct 18 2022 01:24am
For pvm its better to go 105fcr crescent moon option.
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Oct 18 2022 02:39am
You can also take 2x Spirit
Weapon 35fcr Mana/Fhr Skills
Shield 35fcr Mana/fhr/Resi/Skills
Griffons 25fcr
Viper 30fcr
Arach 20fcr
Trang/Mage 20fcr
2x 10fcr Rings
Amu 15fcr

200fcr 142fhr with Es = Gg
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Oct 18 2022 09:32am
week after week people ask how to build a nova sorc
and the answer has been the same since infinity came out 18 years ago
the sorc holds infinity, the merc holds insight
everything else is bad and it's not even close
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