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Oct 2 2022 05:40pm
hey everyone, there's lots of mechanics involved with ww and I'm hoping you can point out any improvements I can make to the build or things I outright got wrong. I'm enjoying ww a lot and want it to do more dps if possible while keeping survivability up.

the content I plan on doing: lots of baal runs to hopefully hit ~lv96 from 91 currently, chaos + boss mf runs.

skills:
20 ww
20 berserk (for phys immunes)
20 sword mastery
1 max stamina + speed
1 iron skin + natural res
1 find item
20 BO
rest into howl (berserk synergy)

with my charms/gear I get max res + 5k life after BO. haven't had any survival issues.

gear:
grief pb (33ias)
death eth colossus sword
nigma
arreat (15ias/35ed jewel)
loh gloves
goreriders
arach
ravenfrost
fcr/ml ring
highlords
dual hotos on swap (110fcr for tele + BO)


I originally went with a zerker axe setup but grief cost me too much gold to repair so I swapped to swords. from what i've read up on recent changes to ww I understand that ias + ed from all gear is taken into account for ww dps now (up to skill lv31 in ww - is this true?) so went with that ias/ed jewel in helm, 88ias altogether. now the ias calc says I only need 4ias to max out with pb, does this mean my build is way overkill on ias?

if y'all have a better offhand in mind I could swap out the death cs but so far I like it for the extra deadly strike + ml.

are max dmg/ar charms better than bcomb skillers? is there a balance to achieve between the two?

merc is using pride lv20 con atm. would reaper's toll be better for decrep? any other merc recommendations?


appreciate any and all thoughts on this!

This post was edited by dhawal on Oct 2 2022 05:48pm
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Oct 2 2022 05:45pm
on first view your breakpoints suck. try to go for 40fcr instead of 30

also check ur ww breakpoints. ive no clue about the new ones, but might wanna drop raven for fcr dualleech ring + cham in helm
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Oct 2 2022 05:45pm
Don’t you only need one point in beserk? That’s all I used on mine
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Oct 2 2022 05:46pm
Quote (Celemir @ Oct 2 2022 04:45pm)
on first view your breakpoints suck. try to go for 40fcr instead of 30

also check ur ww breakpoints. ive no clue about the new ones, but might wanna drop raven for fcr dualleech ring + cham in helm


right, i'll add my bps in the post. I get 110 on swap for fast teles. i'm okay not hitting 40 on mains because the faster run/walk is good enough for me there.

thanks
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Oct 2 2022 05:46pm
Quote (dhawal @ Oct 2 2022 04:40pm)
if y'all have a better offhand in mind

dual grief pb
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are max dmg/ar charms better than bcomb skillers?

yes
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merc is using pride lv20 con atm. would reaper's toll be better for decrep?

yes
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any other recommendations?

if you go for mf, cham helm drop ravenfrost, change berserk points to find potion

no mention of your swap. im not a fan of arach and go string, 1 fcr ring with wizzys or branch on swap for 105fcr tele
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Oct 2 2022 05:52pm
Quote (dhawal @ Oct 3 2022 01:46am)
right, i'll add my bps in the post. I get 110 on swap for fast teles. i'm okay not hitting 40 on mains because the faster run/walk is good enough for me there.

thanks


put 2 ali babas in 2nd slot, but play with 40fcr in first slot. you might not like it, but efficiency wise its superior, because magic find is one of the strongest stats in the game
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Oct 2 2022 05:53pm
Quote (dhawal @ Oct 3 2022 10:40am)
hey everyone, there's lots of mechanics involved with ww and I'm hoping you can point out any improvements I can make to the build or things I outright got wrong. I'm enjoying ww a lot and want it to do more dps if possible while keeping survivability up.

the content I plan on doing: lots of baal runs to hopefully hit ~lv96 from 91 currently, chaos + boss mf runs.

skills:
20 ww
20 berserk (for phys immunes)
20 sword mastery
1 max stamina + speed
1 iron skin + natural res
1 find item
20 BO
rest into howl (berserk synergy)

with my charms/gear I get max res + 5k life after BO. haven't had any survival issues.

gear:
grief pb (33ias)
death eth colossus sword
nigma
arreat (15ias/35ed jewel)
loh gloves
goreriders
arach
ravenfrost
fcr/ml ring
highlords

I originally went with a zerker axe setup but grief cost me too much gold to repair so I swapped to swords. from what i've read up on recent changes to ww I understand that ias + ed from all gear is taken into account for ww dps now (up to skill lv31 in ww - is this true?) so went with that ias/ed jewel in helm, 88ias altogether. now the ias calc says I only need 4ias to max out with pb, does this mean my build is way overkill on ias?

if y'all have a better offhand in mind I could swap out the death cs but so far I like it for the extra deadly strike + ml.

are max dmg/ar charms better than bcomb skillers? is there a balance to achieve between the two?

merc is using pride lv20 con atm. would reaper's toll be better for decrep? any other merc recommendations?


appreciate any and all thoughts on this!


IMO that's almost as good as it gets but Dual grief pb's are better. Are you using Max/ar charms?

Personally, I'd go with an Act 2 Might merc using an Eth Reapers OR act 5 merc with Arreats, Treach, Lawbringer, Plague for smoother game play. The only down side of plague IMO is lower res over rides decrep frequently.

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Oct 2 2022 05:53pm
bro stop palying this game in 2008. Getting 99 now requires you to kill mobs in Terror areas not doing 345345345 Baal runs
Second, WW barb is absolutely horrrible dogshit for PVM, you want Frenzy. Its fun its interactive and its easy, also very very cheap. You can get griefs if you wanna be OG too
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Oct 2 2022 05:55pm
Quote (emptyfolder @ 3 Oct 2022 01:53)
bro stop palying this game in 2008. Getting 99 now requires you to kill mobs in Terror areas not doing 345345345 Baal runs
Second, WW barb is absolutely horrrible dogshit for PVM, you want Frenzy. Its fun its interactive and its easy, also very very cheap. You can get griefs if you wanna be OG too


tell frenzy build pls bro i vant make frenzy good like u say
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Oct 2 2022 05:56pm
Quote (emptyfolder @ Oct 2 2022 04:53pm)
bro stop palying this game in 2008. Getting 99 now requires you to kill mobs in Terror areas not doing 345345345 Baal runs
Second, WW barb is absolutely horrrible dogshit for PVM, you want Frenzy. Its fun its interactive and its easy, also very very cheap. You can get griefs if you wanna be OG too


not always easy finding tz games but i'm looking into it. I play ww barb for fun mostly, this thread wouldn't exist if I wanted to go meta.

thanks for the input
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