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Anyone played it? Looks fun!
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Quote (ulmaguest @ 20 Sep 2022 16:13)
Anyone played it? Looks fun!


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Yes, but i prefer a bow. Crossbows are locked to 10fpa as a max cap, but -60 wsm brings that easy, so u can forexample use a melee sorc with it as secondary and dont need to think much about ias in gear. Incase ur build uses a fast pb or knife with ias in it.
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Yes, but i prefer a bow. Crossbows are locked to 10fpa as a max cap, but -60 wsm brings that easy, so u can forexample use a melee sorc with it as secondary and dont need to think much about ias in gear. Incase ur build uses a fast pb or knife with ias in it.


Bow as in Kuko?

I'm referring to Enchant + Exploding projectiles + Pierce builds here
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Quote (ulmaguest @ Sep 20 2022 06:58pm)
Bow as in Kuko?

I'm referring to Enchant + Exploding projectiles + Pierce builds here


Yes, you mean the demon Machine.

There are other ways as well:
Brand: does not pierce, but shots Exploding arrows and Knockack.
Demon Machine: piercing bolt with a line of explotion.
Warshrike: allows double dream, 50% pierce and ctc nova, also great for melee for increased dmg vs single mob/boss.
Widowmaker: homing missle, always hits, but can be blocked.
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Yes, you mean the demon Machine.

There are other ways as well:
Brand: does not pierce, but shots Exploding arrows and Knockack.
Demon Machine: piercing bolt with a line of explotion.
Warshrike: allows double dream, 50% pierce and ctc nova, also great for melee for increased dmg vs single mob/boss.
Widowmaker: homing missle, always hits, but can be blocked.


Yup!

Warshrike sounds interesting! Is my only option for big dmg the two Exploding bows or Brand?

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Quote (ulmaguest @ Sep 20 2022 07:31pm)
Yup!

Warshrike sounds interesting! Is my only option for big dmg the two Exploding bows or Brand?


Well, demon Machine is basicly like shoting fireballs slow, but with pierce.

Warshrike has higher dmg, but less direct aoe, but with 2 dream u will have 2 tics and awsome aura dmg as aoe, instead of 1 tic. And when u melee everything will multiply, typical reached damage then is between 55 and 87k on melee. Knife lets sorc reach the 9fpa attack on melee as well as is a -20 wsm base with 30base ias and 50% pierce, some physical dmg for leech and 50% deadly strike. The ctc nova is very high (25%), it will benefit heavy from light mastery etc, and u can see if u can hybrid it better towards that. Since its pierce it will trigger often. I think even 100k is possible on melee, but with other setup which plainly is so rare it dont spawn.

Stormlash is another good melee wepon, ctc static + base 1-514 light dmg which scales high! Its a -10 wsm base with +2 range adder, has 33% crushing blow base and 30ias.it also cast nado for fun, has some melee damage and can be socet.

Passion is great for zeal melee, but there exists better:
Phaseblade: 40ias/fool's/zeal charges/2 soc can even spawn with high base light dmg, but most likely u wont find that, 1 soc is fine too.
When it comes to knifes they can spawn with same stats but either:
Lower res
Life tap
Psn dagger.

Psn dagger can further be boosted with arach venom cast into like 4k dmg just for giggles.
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Quote (gel87 @ Sep 20 2022 04:34pm)
Well, demon Machine is basicly like shoting fireballs slow, but with pierce.

Passion is great for zeal melee, but there exists better:
Phaseblade: 40ias/fool's/zeal charges/2 soc can even spawn with high base light dmg, but most likely u wont find that, 1 soc is fine too.


Nice thanks for the info!

I actually started my sorc as a Passion sorc but ended up abandoning Passion Zeal altogether for Last Wish PB. I re-did the build entirely to not rely on AR as I found balancing AR, All Res, FCR, and IAS for Zeal was a fool's errand, and I do have the gear for it including 4 OS blue armor with 3x 15% IAS / 15 All Res Jewels + Cham in it. Having to wear Angelics to carry the AR high kinda gimps the build. I found her dying or getting block/hit recovery locked a ton, and missed Zeals were super dangerous against strong packs in p8.

I re-did the build using LW and she's tanky af now. Very high single target swing with ITD but missing the Zeal AOE.

At any rate, I'll keep an eye out for Rare PB's like what you describe. If I can get a Fool's PB with the AR to support Zeal on it, it might be worth trying it out.

If Passion had ITD or -25% Target Def on it, it'd be a LOT better for the build.

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Warshrike has higher dmg, but less direct aoe, but with 2 dream u will have 2 tics and awsome aura dmg as aoe, instead of 1 tic. And when u melee everything will multiply, typical reached damage then is between 55 and 87k on melee. Knife lets sorc reach the 9fpa attack on melee as well as is a -20 wsm base with 30base ias and 50% pierce, some physical dmg for leech and 50% deadly strike. The ctc nova is very high (25%), it will benefit heavy from light mastery etc, and u can see if u can hybrid it better towards that. Since its pierce it will trigger often. I think even 100k is possible on melee, but with other setup which plainly is so rare it dont spawn.



For Warshrike stacked with Dreams do you mean have her melee or throw Warshrike daggers?

This post was edited by ulmaguest on Sep 20 2022 04:09pm
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Sep 20 2022 04:27pm
Basicly throw vs packs and melee vs single target with warshrike :)
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Quote (gel87 @ Sep 20 2022 06:27pm)
Basicly throw vs packs and melee vs single target with warshrike :)


Does the Nova CTC proc if Socer throws it into a pack? I'll give it a shot

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