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Sep 12 2022 07:57pm
was wondering if this is the best gear in slot for pvm nova necro or if im wrong or missing anything.

weapon 1 - DWEB With perfect psn% roll socketed with 5/5 psn
shield 1- shrunken head w/ +3 pnb skills & +3 to poison nova socketed w/ 2 5/5 psn facets
helm - +3 pnb cirlclet 20 fcr w/ socketed w/ 2 5/5 psn facets
armor - bramble w/ +50% psn skill dmg
gloves - trangs
boots - eth treks
rings - 10fcr/15@res & soj
ammy - +3 pnb skills w/ 10 fcr
offhand/swap - cta&spirit
pnb skillers
iron maiden - inisght
nm act 2 merc w/ might aura infinity, andys
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Sep 12 2022 11:31pm
For shield i would go with spirit or 3 pieces trang oul.
For armor enigma.
Amulet craft 20fcr.
Rare boots with high resistances or wt for mf.
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Sep 13 2022 01:59am
hoto >
spirit >
eni >

pvm is all about quick and efficient farming. raw dmg is overrated, especially since your poison nova will generally only be used to kill the first enemy. almost all of your dmg comes (should come) from corpse explosion
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Sep 13 2022 07:37am
Enigma > Bramble

You can go 3 piece, which is cheaper. 85 FCR isn't bad for PvM, but many prefer 125 even if it means less Facets and higher cost.

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hoto >
spirit >
eni >

pvm is all about quick and efficient farming. raw dmg is overrated, especially since your poison nova will generally only be used to kill the first enemy. almost all of your dmg comes (should come) from corpse explosion


You still want damage, otherwise there's really no point in spending that much more for a Poison Nec for what a Fishymancer already does for less. 125 set up with Enigma and Spirit is pretty standard.

Dweb with Facet
Spirit (35)
Caster Rings (20)
Trang Glove (20)
Arach (20)
3/20 or 2/20 Circlet with Facets (20)
2/10 - 2/20 Amulet (10 - 20)

Extra room for SoJ if you use a 2/20 amulet.

This post was edited by eric1014153 on Sep 13 2022 07:38am
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Quote (eric1014153 @ Sep 13 2022 03:37pm)
Enigma > Bramble

You can go 3 piece, which is cheaper. 85 FCR isn't bad for PvM, but many prefer 125 even if it means less Facets and higher cost.



You still want damage, otherwise there's really no point in spending that much more for a Poison Nec for what a Fishymancer already does for less. 125 set up with Enigma and Spirit is pretty standard.

Dweb with Facet
Spirit (35)
Caster Rings (20)
Trang Glove (20)
Arach (20)
3/20 or 2/20 Circlet with Facets (20)
2/10 - 2/20 Amulet (10 - 20)

Extra room for SoJ if you use a 2/20 amulet.


only difference between a fishy and a poison nec is that a poison nec doesn't exclusively rely on merc to get the first kill. you're not doing yourself a favour by optimizing your poison damage

saving 0.5 seconds on the first kill does not justify wasting helm slot, amu slot and a ring slot to compensate for the hoto fcr loss

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Sep 13 2022 07:57am
"best" cannot be well described without your goals. You said pvm, but what about MF? DPS? Ease of gameplay? I.e. high/low mf, players settlings, farming areas, fcr preference

Anyways, I prefer 125fcr bp as first priority, then as much -epd as possible. Infinity Merc and insight IG as well.
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Sep 13 2022 08:00am
Quote (Dolphy @ Sep 13 2022 08:44am)
only difference between a fishy and a poison nec is that a poison nec doesn't exclusively rely on merc to get the first kill. you're not doing yourself a favour by optimizing your poison damage

saving 0.5 seconds on the first kill < wasting helm slot, amu slot and a ring slot to compensate for the hoto fcr loss


A Might Merc with an Eth Polearm will take out a monster faster than most Poison Necs will with a simple amp and teleport for positioning. Poison is too weak to rely on killing anything unless you set it up with Dweb, which is a common issue when you build a Poison Nec.

It also saves the need to spend two Ber Runes on Infinity, since you Conviction doesn't even help with Poison Res in the first place. Instead of marginally better CE damage, he'd be better off with a much cheaper option like EboTD, where single target damage is substantially higher via Amp, with Poison/CE has no benefit against, and is also cheaper. IG just be Insight.

Amulet, Helm, and Rings are all the standard for Necro, unless you're going a MF set up which would be better off on the inventory, boot, and armor slot anyway. 3/4 to Poison Skills and up to -50 for res there is no reason to not use it aside from cost.

CE builds are a P 1 - P3 set up, and the amount of optimal poison damage at that rate would make Nova fast enough to kill with Lower Res and teleport by just popping around with end game gear without the need to switch curses and toggle amp. If OP did want to use CE, then the ability to do so is not hindered since he still has optimal damage and 125 CE. CE and optimal Poison isn't mutually exclusive.

This post was edited by eric1014153 on Sep 13 2022 08:02am
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Quote (eric1014153 @ Sep 13 2022 04:00pm)
tldr; poison sucks, merc and CE does most of the work but I'll still stubbornly sacrifice kill speed, utility and shitloads of fg on a circ and amu to do marginally more poison damage


you're making so much sense
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Sep 13 2022 08:16am
Quote (Dolphy @ Sep 13 2022 09:05am)
you're making so much sense


OP wants a Poison Nec build, not a glorified Fishymancer that costs more for no real benefit.
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Quote (eric1014153 @ Sep 13 2022 04:16pm)
OP wants a Poison Nec build, not a glorified Fishymancer that costs more for no real benefit.


you advocated getting a 2/20 amu and a circ over shako and a shitty mara

keep talking, you're making so much sense
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