does anyone have a link to a guide for staff mod generation and tiers?

like if I wanted a +2druid/+3fissure pelt could that spawn

Yes.

I forgot.... there are 6 tiers for staff mods..... how many lvl above or below can staffmods be together.... like I know a tier 1 and tier 6 can't spawn together..... does anyone know? I saw somewhere that tier 1 can't spawn w/ tiers 5 & 6 and tier 2 cant spawn w/ tier 6..... other than that they can spawn together

does anyone know anymore about this and how it works for spawning +druidskills, barbskills, etc

here are the tiers

Tier 1: Fire Bolt, Warmth, Charged Bolt, Ice Bolt, Frozen Armor
Tier 2: Inferno, Static Field, Telekinesis, Frost Nova, Ice Blast
Tier 3: Blaze, Fire Ball, Nova, Lightning, Shiver Armor
Tier 4: Fire Wall, Enchant, Chain Lightning, Teleport, Glacial Spike
Tier 5: Meteor, Thunder Storm, Energy Shield, Blizzard, Chilling Armor
Tier 6: Fire Mastery, Hydra, Lightning Mastery, Frozen Orb, Cold Mastery

Necro:
Tier 1: Amplify Damage, Teeth, Bone Armor, Skeleton Mastery, Raise Skeleton
Tier 2: Dim Vision, Weaken, Poison Dagger, Corpse Explosion, Clay Golem
Tier 3: Iron Maiden, Terror, Bone Wall, Golem Mastery, Raise Skeletal Mage
Tier 4: Confuse, Life Tap, Poison Explosion, Bone Spear, Blood Golem
Tier 5: Attract, Decrepify, Bone Prison, Summon Resist, Iron Golem
Tier 6: Lower Resist, Poison Nova, Bone Spirit, Fire Golem, Revive

Pal:
Tier 1: Sacrifice, Smite, Might, Prayer, Resist Fire
Tier 2: Holy Bolt, Holy Fire, Thorns, Defiance, Resist Cold
Tier 3: Zeal, Charge, Blessed Aim, Cleansing, Resist Lightning
Tier 4: Vengeance, Blessed Hammer, Concentration, Holy Freeze, Vigor
Tier 5: Conversion, Holy Shield, Holy Shock, Sanctuary, Meditation,
Tier 6: Fist of the Heavens, Fanaticism, Conviction, Redemption, Salvation

Dru:
Tier 1: Raven, Poison Creeper, Wearwolf, Lycanthropy, Firestorm
Tier 2: Oak Sage, Summon Spirit Wolf, Wearbear, Molten Boulder, Arctic Blast
Tier 3: Carrion Vine, Feral Rage, Maul, Fissure, Cyclone Armor
Tier 4: Heart of Wolverine, Summon Dire Wolf, Rabies, Fire Claws, Twister
Tier 5: Solar Creeper, Hunger, Shock Wave, Volcano, Tornado
Tier 6: Spirit of Barbs, Summon Grizzly, Fury, Armageddon, Hurricane

Assassin:
Tier 1: Fire Blast, Claw Mastery, Psychic Hammer, Tiger Strike, Dragon Talon
Tier 2: Shock Web, Blade Sentinel, Burst of Speed, Fists of Fire, Dragon Claw
Tier 3: Charged Bolt Sentry, Wake of Fire Sentry, Weapon Block, Cloak of Shadows, Cobra Strike
Tier 4: Blade Fury, Fade, Shadow Warrior, Claws of Thunder, Dragon Tail
Tier 5: Lightning Sentry, Wake of Inferno, Mind Blast, Blades of Ice, Dragon Flight
Tier 6: Death Sentry, Blade Shield, Venom, Shadow Master, Phoenix Strike

Bar:
Tier 1: Bash, Sword Mastery, Axe Mastery, Mace Mastery, Howl
Tier 2: Find Potion, Leap, Double Swing, Pole Arm Mastery, Throwing Mastery
Tier 3: Spear Mastery, Taunt, Shout, Stun, Double Throw
Tier 4: Increased Stamina, Find Item, Leap Attack, Concentrate, Iron Skin
Tier 5: Battle Cry, Frenzy, Increased Speed, Battle Orders, Grim Ward
Tier 6: Whirlwind, Berserk, Natural Resistance, War Cry, Battle Command

01 ≤ iLvl ≤ 11: T1, T2
12 ≤ iLvl ≤ 18: T1, T2, T3
19 ≤ iLvl ≤ 24: T1, T2, T3, T4
25 ≤ iLvl ≤ 36: T2, T3, T4, T5 (D2C: iLvl ≥ 25)
37 ≤ iLvl ≤ 99: T3, T4, T5, T6 (D2X only)

Aweseome.... this is what I was looking for

thanks man

so essentially affixes with lvl 37-99 could spawn with T3, T4, T5, T6?

This post was edited by classic_ww on Apr 10 2013 09:36pm

basically if I go off of these charts then it's impossible for a +5 or +6 oak sage helm to spawn?

+2 druid skills is affix lvl 50 and +2 dudu summon is affix lvl 40.... these are higher than tier 2

the best you could do would be a +1druid/+3oak

or +1dudu summon/ +3 oak

+6 Oak helm is impossible.

But +5 Oak is possible.

Affix level 50 (+2 druid skill) doesn't mean item level 50 :
a high quality level Pelt may have affix level 50 with low item level (low enough to spawn Tier 2 skills, like Oak).

You can produce a low item level rare Pelt with :
- rolling recipes ( 6 p.skulls, or 1 p.skull + 1 SoJ)
- imbuing

Aim at item level 12-18 for the best chance of spawning +X Oak.

Dream spirit with item level 12-18 has affix level 71,
Sky spirit with item level 12-18 has affix level 67,
Earth spirit with item level 12-18 has affix level 53.

Since those recipes only work with rare quality items, you cannot do the same with magic Pelts.
Hence +6 Oak isn't possible (+3 to Summon is a magic-only affix).

basically you would have to imbue or roll a 5 oak helm...... It won't actually spawn in the game?

I'm sorry, i'm just having a little trouble understanding the differences between qlvl ilvl etc and how they affect what mods can spawn

basically to get an ilvl 12-18 pelt you would have to look somewhere roughly in a2 norm?

i'm basing this off of the area lvl of that act & difficulty

This post was edited by classic_ww on Apr 11 2013 07:43am

feanur,

I read through the item generation tutorial thread from your page. Basically to get that low of staffmods need to roll low ilvl rare pelt with a lvl1 char or something like that. I'll read through it in more detail when I have more time but that's the gist of it

Yes it won't.



Nothing surprising, Diablo 2 uses a lot of hidden values for the item generation. It takes time to have a precise overview.



But you will never see elite helms as Dream spirit drop in normal game...



If you imbue, you just need to lay your hands on a non-magic Dream/Sky/Earth spirit. It must be unsocket, and you must be aware that if it is etheral, it will remain etheral (good or bad thing, it's up to you).

Use char level 8 to 14 to produce a rare Pelt of iLvl 12 to 18 (best chance to roll +X Oak).

If you fail, you can roll this helm with p.skulls (for example).

You want item level to stay in the range 12-18.

With 6p.skulls, output iLvl = int(0.4 x Char level) + int(0.4 x input iLvl)

So if you roll this iLvl 12-18 rare pelt with char level 20-29, it will stay at iLvl 12-18, no matter how many rolls you make.

You can also start the process with a random rare pelt (for example Baal's drop).
Use char level 1 for your first rolls, iLvl will decrease faster to your desired range.
Ignore the first roll (6 p.skulls wasted), check your second roll (you're already in the good range).
For the third and all other rolls to come, use char level 20-29.

Good luck !