right now im comparing the astreon and grief, astreon is showing higher dmg but in the end it seems grief still beats it even though atm with grief set up, im only achieving 70 cb and with astreon i have 100. is it because of the ignore def that is making grief so godly compared to the astreon. i have tried zeal + smite on ubers and regular non demon monster since i no grief has the upper hand on ubers since they demons. in the end grief is hands down faster killing machine. anyone have any input on this? i dont really want to waste a jah to just test my curiosity lol

+400 dmg = kabooom

(the dmg doesn't show up on the screen)

This post was edited by Razor on Jul 23 2011 03:05pm

Don't forget that the real Dmg isn't shown with Grief.
But I'm sure you know.

Another point is "ignore defense" as you correctly said.

thats the thing, does +400dmg really show that much of a difference?

No its not
Ignor defence doesnt do shit when your attack autohits

someone told me that the dmg output of grief is around 5-7k and the astreon is only 3-4k. but how does the +400dmg convert to 3k dmg if what he said is true? the astreon adds 85 dmg as well so lets say +300dmg = 3k dmg?

+400 damage to your base smite damage. This is then modified by all of you %ed. With fanat being such high %ed having huge base damage to multiply is a lot better than having low base damage (not grief) multiplied an extra 300%.

so "ignore targets defense" does work in pvp???

your essentialy attacking vs there CTB not there AC??

oh not just +85 dmg with astreon but 135 since +4comb = 60 dmg difference

im not talking bout pvp, im talking bout pvm+ubers atm