i'm doing some tests with shadow master and mindblast, and so far it's pretty interesting. i'm doing 10 minute tests, where i spam 102 fcr teleport in the vicinity of an enemy sorc. so far i've tested 15 hard points and 20 hard points on a trap build (maxed light traps, 1 pt all shadow skills, 1 pt wof + fb) with the normal amount of +skills (although i don't think those make any difference). the results are:

15 hard points: 45 mindblasts in 10 minutes
20 hard points: 106 mindblasts in 10 minutes

so far, it really looks like it's worth it to max mindblast, possibly even at the expense of trap synergies...i mean holy shit, for 5 pts your shadow mindblasts more than twice as much, and with longer stun dura and more damage.

i'll be testing 10, 5, 2, 1, and 0 mindblast later on when i've got time.

any opinions so far?

woah thats a hell of alot more mb's than i would have thought. keep up the good work

So far I think this is pretty useless since;

1) You won't be teleporting around someone for 10 minutes, so the frame is not realistic.
2) This test doesn't rule out coincidences/random events.

since my assa has 2 hard points I´m interested in that, when you get to it. As compared to 0 and 1 points.

keep it up..mb away...

flatulence is ofc correct...

make it statistical pls how ? dunno...

This post was edited by m72mc on Apr 21 2008 12:14pm

I'm pretty sure the frame is used just as a medium to judge how often shadow mbs in a set amount of time. As for number 2, impossible to control

10 mins is long enough that you get a pretty good idea of the frequency...if someone else wants to replicate the tests though, i'd be glad to see the results. obviously you can never completely rule out coincidence, but i'd say 10 mins is long enough that you get pretty accurate results.

obviously you wouldn't just teleport around someone for 10 minutes, but vs many opponents, spamming teleport works very, very well...and it's the only way to keep master from just running up to them and using charge-ups for the whole 10 minutes.

the strangest part of the test though: master NEVER, the entire time, on either test used a single trap. the skills it used most of the time were shock web, dflight, and mindblast.

nice testing!

Additionally, if you add at least 2 hardpoints into shadowmaster, he seems to utilize all skills a bit more often, namely MB occurs a LOT more.
IDK if it increases its usage as much as hardpoints in MB, but i know for a fact it does increase the SMs usage of MB

Maybe more factors to test with... 1-10-20 points in ShadowMaster and its affectual use of Mind Blast.
good work!
cheers.

one thing here that makes it even more complicated, I think shadow master reacts differetly, depending on number of opponents and distance...

Repetition is what makes a test, not length. Only one is not enough to draw conclusions. Don't wanna be a dick, but thats what been bashed into me for the last years lol.

This post was edited by Flatulence on Apr 21 2008 12:22pm

Pm me the result of 2 hard points and 0/1 hard point when you get the chance please.