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I'm trying to find a decent summoner build as PSN Necro just isn't fun for me to play lol.

Is wielding Beast, Iron Golem Insight, and Pride Merc the best way to go? Infinity merc instead for lowering enemy defence and fire res?
Or Bow merc with Faith, and I wear other things like Arm of Leoric?
I'd like to wear Stormshield tbh.

I'm trying to climb 99 on Necro, and it's so fucking squishy and not fun. PnB with 125% Fcr wearing Storm shield was much better as I wasn't being 2-3 shot anymore... And more fun than PSN.

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Simmons are mostly there for morale support in Hell it’s a CE build with some meat shields. I like Flickerong Flame on my Necro and the highest roll Eth Infinity I own I think it’s a 323 ED on the Merc.
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Simmons are mostly there for morale support in Hell it’s a CE build with some meat shields. I like Flickerong Flame on my Necro and the highest roll Eth Infinity I own I think it’s a 323 ED on the Merc.


I have a 2/30/20/30str/Ber'd Diadem hat that I'm using, but FF seems cool. Does + Fire skills add to CE?
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Ya also the -fire
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I have a 2/30/20/30str/Ber'd Diadem hat that I'm using, but FF seems cool. Does + Fire skills add to CE?


CE is only affected by Fire Res and DR%.
+% fire dmg has no effect on it.
So 15 fire pen is the best increase you can get form helm slot.

FF is by far the best option, as it increase CE by +3 (it's tagged as a fire skill) and gives the max fire pen amount you can get.
But it also fixes the malus you get from fire sunder (you should use it), the malus your merc has on andy (so you can socket it with a 15/40ed instead of a 15/30FR), and it makes all your summons immune to fire (the main thing that normally kills them).

You really don't care about improving any other skill than CE... maxed amp already has a huge radius, your summons are just a meat shield, it's all about your merc's dps to get a first corpse from amp + telestomp, then casting CE with as much -FR and -DR you can get.

CE nec is my favorite build of all time :blush:
Sadly, the dmg of CE does not scale with the bonus hp mobs get per player... It always deals:
35-60% Fire
35-60% Phys
and this % is based on the corpse's HP on p1

You get -85% fire res from merc's infinity (-17% vs fire sundered) and 20 fire pen from FF + facet x%/-5 in Homunculus
And you get -100% DR from amp
This is enough to make you almost always kill the whole screen from 1 CE on p1

But mobs getting +50% base HP per player means that your clear speed drops a lot per extra player, contrary to most builds who can achieve absurd overkill dmg for the purpose of playing p1.
Not just for CE, but also for your merc's capacity to provide a corpse instantly on telestomps.

So... it's really not optimal if your goal is to reach 99.
But it's definitely more enjoyable (and safe) than PSN nova hahaha :rolleyes:
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Here's my min/maxed build for p1 to p3
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/jf1er0e2

If you play above that player count, only then will your summons matter.
Their dmg will be pretty low overall, even if you fill your inv with summon skillers.
But at least they provide a lot of targets for the purpose of using thorn.
And since your capacity to get a corpse doesn't entirely rely on merc anymore, and since your CE dmg isn't enough to get the job done without soem sort of other pseudo AoE dmg, then the best adaptation you can make on the linked build above is to swap Fort for Bramble.
Keeping might merc and using bramble will achieve better results than keeping fort and using thorn merc.
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CE is only affected by Fire Res and DR%.
+% fire dmg has no effect on it.
So 15 fire pen is the best increase you can get form helm slot.

FF is by far the best option, as it increase CE by +3 (it's tagged as a fire skill) and gives the max fire pen amount you can get.
But it also fixes the malus you get from fire sunder (you should use it), the malus your merc has on andy (so you can socket it with a 15/40ed instead of a 15/30FR), and it makes all your summons immune to fire (the main thing that normally kills them).

You really don't care about improving any other skill than CE... maxed amp already has a huge radius, your summons are just a meat shield, it's all about your merc's dps to get a first corpse from amp + telestomp, then casting CE with as much -FR and -DR you can get.

CE nec is my favorite build of all time :blush:
Sadly, the dmg of CE does not scale with the bonus hp mobs get per player... It always deals:
35-60% Fire
35-60% Phys
and this % is based on the corpse's HP on p1

You get -85% fire res from merc's infinity (-17% vs fire sundered) and 20 fire pen from FF + facet x%/-5 in Homunculus
And you get -100% DR from amp
This is enough to make you almost always kill the whole screen from 1 CE on p1

But mobs getting +50% base HP per player means that your clear speed drops a lot per extra player, contrary to most builds who can achieve absurd overkill dmg for the purpose of playing p1.
Not just for CE, but also for your merc's capacity to provide a corpse instantly on telestomps.

So... it's really not optimal if your goal is to reach 99.
But it's definitely more enjoyable (and safe) than PSN nova hahaha :rolleyes:


I was praying you'd chime in ahahaha :D

Alright, fk the nec hat. Flickering Flame it is.

For gear I was thinking of wearing SS + Beast but w/o FCR hat I won't hit at least 75% FCR that way. Hmm..

Merc I guess is Infin Thresher/Fort/Andy

Me:
FF
Enigma
Arach
2/15fcr/life/res ammy
Trang or Mage fist gloves
20/20 Jmod? :OOOO Or Fire facet SS or Humon/Spirit... Or Darkforce with Facet?
Rings will be soj or fcr if I need.
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I was praying you'd chime in ahahaha :D

Alright, fk the nec hat. Flickering Flame it is.

For gear I was thinking of wearing SS + Beast but w/o FCR hat I won't hit at least 75% FCR that way. Hmm..

Merc I guess is Infin Thresher/Fort/Andy

Me:
FF
Enigma
Arach
2/15fcr/life/res ammy
Trang or Mage fist gloves
20/20 Jmod? :OOOO Or Fire facet SS or Humon/Spirit... Or Darkforce with Facet?
Rings will be soj or fcr if I need.


My link includes all the ideal items and bases.
GPA is the best infinity base, paired with the bonus EIAS from fana lvl 9 on self-wield beast.
And as you can see, it's reaching 75fcr, without any fcr on weapon, shield, helm.
That's 10 frames casting speed.
Now look at the calculations tabs...
merc dps = 74.5k
He kills just about anything 9 frames (the time it takes to land his 2nd jab hit) after you amp+telestomp in range of attack.
So a frame later, you can already cast CE, right in time for your 10 frame cast speed.
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My link includes all the ideal items and bases.
GPA is the best infinity base, paired with the bonus EIAS from fana lvl 9 on self-wield beast.
And as you can see, it's reaching 75fcr, without any fcr on weapon, shield, helm.
That's 10 frames casting speed.
Now look at the calculations tabs...
merc dps = 74.5k
He kills just about anything 9 frames (the time it takes to land his 2nd jab hit) after you amp+telestomp in range of attack.
So a frame later, you can already cast CE, right in time for your 10 frame cast speed.


Alright, I will follow what your link suggests. Just need to change to Bramble. I have a 322ed Thresher Infinity, so I'll have to sell that and get GPA.

Then I just need Bramble and FF! Which FF Base looks best on a Necromancer in your opinion?

Also, thanks for your expertise as always :hug:

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Alright, I will follow what your link suggests. Just need to change to Bramble. I have a 322ed Thresher Infinity, so I'll have to sell that and get GPA.

Then I just need Bramble and FF! Which FF Base looks best on a Necromancer in your opinion?

Also, thanks for your expertise as always :hug:


Which base helm looks best is subjective haha
I like BV, feels in line with nec and his skellies
With enigma and beast you don’t really have any str restrictions :p

Just try the build with your current infinity.
If you want to upgrade it later on, then a high ed% GPA is the main upgrade to increase your merc kill speed
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