hi im sound
i do pvp
in the below analysis, i will cover viable NvD builds with their main stats for the nvd/dvn matchup in d2rpvp

please feel free to comment with questions/feedback^^

below are maximum stats, with the best possible gear at lv99. u can check out maxroll link too below the stats:


druid builds:
obsession - 9386life/5320nado/2282hurri/115frw
circlet std - 8739life/5655nado/2420hurri/115frw
pelt 3oak 3nado - 9185life/5655nado/2213hurri/85frw
pelt 0oak 3nado - 8882life/5655nado/2213hurri/85frw


necro builds:
white - 3645life/6115spear/5920ibs/39dr/86fhr/9block
asia - 3548life/5773spear/5765ibs/47dr/39fhr/7block
coa - 3417life/5089spear/5298ibs/50dr/86fhr/14block
spirit/magic wand - not worth the analysis^^


link:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/qr4090a2#5


notes:
- check the above maxroll link for the specific items/inventory used
- all builds incorporated BiS items at lvl99 for analysis
- both obsession and circlet std (standard) uses 2dru/30frw/20fcr/2os circlet with 2x p rubies (76life)
- all druid helms use 2x p rubies, pelt or circ
- all druid builds run 7 frame fhr bp
- all druid builds run aldurs (40frw/50life) but some players sack 10frw for 30frw/10fhr/20life/13rep boots (33rep cap for nvd, with 20rep on hoto) to use in lieu of 2x 5fhr gcs to make 62fhr bp (55fhr from spirit monarch) on non-obession druid
- both obsession and pelt builds use 2x fcr rings
- keep in mind that druid 7fpa fhr bp for staff is 57, instead of the normal 63 (hoto flail). this allows you to deck your sc inventory with all 20/17s after gcs
- all nec builds use 2/30/20/2os w/ 2x ber, excluding coa (2x ber'd)
- the pelt with 3oak is very expensive, gl ever finding one
- the pelt build requires use of either suicide branch or wizspike. best to socket with a 20life/20mana jewel.
- 3oak pelt druid and white nec is probably the best all around
- all necro builds have max cold res (for hurricane)
- white nec build is the most popular in na/eu yet it has the lowest dr%
- asia build uses boneshade (7fhr 30cr jewel) and darkspawn (ber'd) as primary weap/shield
- all necro builds use aldurs and 125 frw which is largely standard. obviously with less frw (replace 1x frw gc with 45lifer), the life totals for all will be higher
- going 39fhr on the asia nec build is highly controversial since it took off after 2.4 fhr patch. yet it is the most popular nvd build in asia. rate it as you will
- going 39dr on the na/eu nec build is standard, despite it being lower than its competing builds
- the asia nec build can have as low as 7% block with 12/20 torch + 10/10 anni. the white nec build can have as low as 9% block with 10/20 torch+anni. both require 15dex ravenfrost (lowest roll). for those who don't know, lower block chance % reduces the odds of block animation from bear.
- this analysis does not take account of maras bo which many pvp players use in their inventory for bo prebuff. so the life totals can go even higher, about 100+


overall thoughts:
for druid, if you can afford a 2dru/10fhr/3nado/3oak/40life/2os pelt, the pelt build looks most well-rounded; otherwise, i'd opt for the obsession build cause it does not require high-end jewelry with both +life and +str (just +life, since u can run an eth spirit mon or lidless on bo swap). however, if you often notice yourself sidestepping to avoid spears, circlet-based builds may be the best option for u

for necro, the white build seems the most balanced despite the lower dr. even in post-2.4 fhr changes, higher fhr bp still seems important to reduce hit animation, alongside higher dmg.



tags:
nvd, dvn, necro, druid, nec, dru, n v d, d v n, d2rpvp, pvp, nec build, dru build, necro build, druid build

This post was edited by sound1 on Oct 18 2024 03:06pm

The Asia nec build is interesting but 86fhr bp already feels pretty bad at times. 2 frames slower would feel awful I’d imagine. Although if bear kb fhr animation is fixed and not affected by fhr in addition to having lower block rate (to have less Raven blocks) it maybe equals out?

I’ll have to try it out

Great reference for anyone looking to get into nvd though. Thanks sound!

Thanks and indeed! Forgot to mention the asia nec build can have as low as 7% block. The lowest you can get on white nec is 9% block (with 15dex raven, 10/20 torch and anni). That 2% can be negligible for some but debatable for others ^^

Yea I considered going 10 stat anni and torch as well but figured the loss in life wouldn’t be worth. I guess if you only need 106 str then you only lose 40 life but going that route you’d need to use lidless for Bo swap unless you had solid ring/ammy to use an eth spirit.

I’ll try that out too!

post some vids dude!

been off d2r pvp for some time, had to google wtf obsession was on a druid, always thought it was just used on sorc builds

It’s pretty damn good on Druid. Can even max bear instead of oak to have a 3.6k dmg bear and still about 7.5-8k life. Pretty bm to use it vs necro though imo

looks like you can get 14 stats on anni or torch with white setup without bumping your block chance up and up to 11 stats on asia setup. You can go up to 17 stats if you don't mind going from 7-8% block as well on asia setup. Take this with a grain of salt though since I've noticed i can use an 18 stat torch on asia setup and still have 8% block so might need some testing to confirm those numbers.

I've been testing the asian setup and im really liking it overall. I dont notice the fhr difference and the dr is noticeable imo. What i really like is the lower block chance since I don't have really gg ring and amulet with high str and life so when i go white setup i tend to use higher stats on torch/anni to be able to equip spirit mon which leads to about a 13-14% chance to block. 7-8% is so much better. However if you can afford the white build with 10 stat anni and torch while still being able to equip spirit mon without investing into str much then it is likely better overall.

beautifully said! i agree

It's wild the changes from lod to this. Seems block % is the new fhr after reading the Asia builds. I know I'm getting old when I'm starting to hate change.

Its neat to see the gear changes, and still looks like nvd is a good time. I was a shit up spearer though 😞

This post was edited by Weiser on Oct 18 2024 06:50am

I remember the good ol' days when dudus wouldn't bother to take off lo/wisp to dvn like real men