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May 21 2024 12:43pm
Hey does grief work with bladesin?
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May 21 2024 01:11pm
I dont think so.

Fleshripper both eth and none eth. (-50% enemy def/decent base damage/high ow/ds/cb/20% slow)
2assa/3bf/fool's/5ctc amp/LoLo claw
Some use eth death ba

Deadly strike is king.
Hit chance is king.
trap skill level is king.
Then u can think about the direct physical part of ur wepon.
Off wepon ed like pheonix shield.

Theese skills works like grief in a way. Bladefury may end up having 1k add base damage via skill(grief only have 400+). This increase further by statbonus, offhand ed, and possible claw mastery, but not 100% sure about claw mastery.

So lets say ur blade fury has 1,2k base damage.
Pheonix will add 1,2 * 4 = 4,8k damage
Stats, lets say u stat dex until max block with pheonix, this will boost ar and damage a lot. So lets say u have 156str and 230dex as an example.
(156+230)*0,75 = 289% ED thats 1200*2,89 = 3468 more damage from stats
Now we can see total: 1200 + 4800 + 3468 = 9468 damage.
But now its time to add ur carefully tought out 100% chance to deal double damage.
9468 * 2 = 18936 damage.

This is not very detailed, but i put it like this to show you how much each parts matter... Did not even calc base wepon damage as it dont matter much.
Lets say you go with a none eth fleshripper 300% ed. We put LO for deadly strike%.
It has 60-228 damage.
(((60+228)*0,75)/2+1200) * (1+((400+289)/100)) * 2 = 20640

As you can see the difference between counting base wepon damage and not is:
20640-18936=1704 damage difference.

Now immagine u take a high damage wepon, with and compare it with a 5bf claw.
400 average damage wepon vs 5bf skills.
400 * 0,75 = 300
Each skill to blade fury gonna give you 50 base damage. so a claw can have 250 damage to bf just via skills.
Most wepons dont have that average damage, in combi with the 2 x LO u can put in claw and the fool's and if ctc amp its godly.

So, most likely ur running gores + hl and if ur level is 99 then u have 37+15 = 52% Deadly strike.
Putting 2 x Lo rune in a claw and ur at 92% deadly strike, not even counting claw mastery as im unsure what values counts and not atm.

Meanwhile a LO'ed fleshripper will put you at 100%, and if u need to put on hots or other boots your at 90% deadly strike still. The -50% enemy def is gz, and the slow is gz too, as well as the OW.
Meanwhile for best possible claw its like this:
2sin/40ias/fool's/2soc/5ctc amp/20min damage/3bf/3bladeshield/3blade sentinell. You dont even need eth/self rep but you put 2 x LO rune in it.
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May 21 2024 01:44pm
Thanks for the epic reply and breakdown.
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May 22 2024 04:42am
Fleshripper is a good choice indeed.

Full Nats, 2x Bartucs, Death eth Etting Axe+Phoenix, Fools Claw + Plague are other options. hf
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Quote (gel87 @ May 21 2024 03:11pm)
I dont think so.

Fleshripper both eth and none eth. (-50% enemy def/decent base damage/high ow/ds/cb/20% slow)
2assa/3bf/fool's/5ctc amp/LoLo claw
Some use eth death ba

Deadly strike is king.
Hit chance is king.
trap skill level is king.
Then u can think about the direct physical part of ur wepon.
Off wepon ed like pheonix shield.

Theese skills works like grief in a way. Bladefury may end up having 1k add base damage via skill(grief only have 400+). This increase further by statbonus, offhand ed, and possible claw mastery, but not 100% sure about claw mastery.

So lets say ur blade fury has 1,2k base damage.
Pheonix will add 1,2 * 4 = 4,8k damage
Stats, lets say u stat dex until max block with pheonix, this will boost ar and damage a lot. So lets say u have 156str and 230dex as an example.
(156+230)*0,75 = 289% ED thats 1200*2,89 = 3468 more damage from stats
Now we can see total: 1200 + 4800 + 3468 = 9468 damage.
But now its time to add ur carefully tought out 100% chance to deal double damage.
9468 * 2 = 18936 damage.

This is not very detailed, but i put it like this to show you how much each parts matter... Did not even calc base wepon damage as it dont matter much.
Lets say you go with a none eth fleshripper 300% ed. We put LO for deadly strike%.
It has 60-228 damage.
(((60+228)*0,75)/2+1200) * (1+((400+289)/100)) * 2 = 20640

As you can see the difference between counting base wepon damage and not is:
20640-18936=1704 damage difference.

Now immagine u take a high damage wepon, with and compare it with a 5bf claw.
400 average damage wepon vs 5bf skills.
400 * 0,75 = 300
Each skill to blade fury gonna give you 50 base damage. so a claw can have 250 damage to bf just via skills.
Most wepons dont have that average damage, in combi with the 2 x LO u can put in claw and the fool's and if ctc amp its godly.

So, most likely ur running gores + hl and if ur level is 99 then u have 37+15 = 52% Deadly strike.
Putting 2 x Lo rune in a claw and ur at 92% deadly strike, not even counting claw mastery as im unsure what values counts and not atm.

Meanwhile a LO'ed fleshripper will put you at 100%, and if u need to put on hots or other boots your at 90% deadly strike still. The -50% enemy def is gz, and the slow is gz too, as well as the OW.
Meanwhile for best possible claw its like this:
2sin/40ias/fool's/2soc/5ctc amp/20min damage/3bf/3bladeshield/3blade sentinell. You dont even need eth/self rep but you put 2 x LO rune in it.


I love blade fury.
Would two claws one beeing the dreammy 2-3 fools 2 sock and second beeing a plague for some defensive utility with weapon block and cleansing work better than death phoinix?
The plague made in a 3 fury plus extras claw.
10total to blade fury.
Lawbringer works surprisingly good with furysin
After the patch and the synergies u basically just need attack rating on the weapon.just the skill dmg itself clears the game.
Very self sufficient character u just need a little bit of mana leech.
Is the critical strike halved because missile attack?
Is 100 critical or deadly strike worth it?
How u handle these undead physical immune bitch witches?
Azurath storm on switch?
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Jun 19 2024 10:31am
Quote (matgreek111 @ Jun 19 2024 05:51pm)
I love blade fury.
Would two claws one beeing the dreammy 2-3 fools 2 sock and second beeing a plague for some defensive utility with weapon block and cleansing work better than death phoinix?
The plague made in a 3 fury plus extras claw.
10total to blade fury.
Lawbringer works surprisingly good with furysin
After the patch and the synergies u basically just need attack rating on the weapon.just the skill dmg itself clears the game.
Very self sufficient character u just need a little bit of mana leech.
Is the critical strike halved because missile attack?
Is 100 critical or deadly strike worth it?
How u handle these undead physical immune bitch witches?
Azurath storm on switch?


For pvm ctc amp, or ctc decrep. Either on you or merc.
Eth reapers might merc.
Fleshripper + Phoenix
Guillaume
HL
LOH (can't rememeber if dmg to demons work, so u can consider 20ias/10cb gloves, or steels)
10fcr/duel leech add
Raven
Arach / strings
Enigma / Forti
Gores
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Jun 19 2024 11:46am
no

tbh the only non claw weapons worth considering is maybe fleshripper and beast eth ba or death eth ba (the fana aura adds quite some ed and the attack rating is useful)

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jun 19 2024 11:46am
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Jun 19 2024 12:14pm
Quote (Stefbef @ Jun 19 2024 07:46pm)
no

tbh the only non claw weapons worth considering is maybe fleshripper and beast eth ba or death eth ba (the fana aura adds quite some ed and the attack rating is useful)


Beast also allows for easy metamorph bear slap to trigger 20% bonus to dr and 25ias which can be usefull with a widowmaker on swap.
Such build with beast Fana bf will lack some deadly strike, but im sure it will still hit like a truck on bladeskills
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Quote (Stefbef @ Jun 20 2024 02:46am)
no

tbh the only non claw weapons worth considering is maybe fleshripper and beast eth ba or death eth ba (the fana aura adds quite some ed and the attack rating is useful)


Etting Axe > BA

(Tal Mask > da green hat 😂)
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Quote (di3tc0ke @ 21 Jun 2024 14:00)
Etting Axe > BA

(Tal Mask > da green hat 😂)


Oh yea true though
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