So do you max Pheonix strike or just dtail/tiger. Keep seeing that dtail is main dmg dealer instead of phoenix.

Anyone have a good skill point lay out with explanation?

Will pay for an actual good answer or link to good explanation. Not interested in good enough just the meta

Max Phoenix Strike, Max claws of thunder, max Blades of ice, 1 hard point in tiger strike, 1 hard point in cobra strike, Fist of Fire converts 3%per level of Phys dmg in Fire dmg so above lev 34 you would have no Mana/Life Leech(so it's up to your playstile - I got it to lev 29 for quality of life).
Dtail should be brought to a level that grants 4 Kick or you will get stuck too long by it's animation.
Rest of points i would max Fade,1+ hard point in Claw Mastery(always nice having ar to not miss hits for charging up),1 Hard point in weapon Block,1 in Burst of speed.
FOr merc my favourite is Blessed Aim act2 merc to hit easy boss to charge up(i think at diablo where u need to recharge)
For ias Phoenix Strike and Claws of thunder suffer of 4 Frame Next hit delay so ideally you want to stay with your DTail i a range of 4 Frame per Kick, this means a high dmg output but lower speed in charging up.
Hope this will help.
If u got any question just pm me.
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Hey man, Dtalon is a better finisher, than Dtail, bc of Dtail fire Dmg.

Skillspoints into Dtalon, until you hit 4 kicks, there is no use for more kicks and longer animation.

G4briel summed it up pretty nicely.

Like G4briel said, max the following skills:

- Phoenix Strike
. Claws of thunder
- blades of ice

I dont use Fist of fire, because of the the conversion from phys to fire dmg, which will interfere with you leech, but its up to the playstyle, but i wouldnt recommend it.

1 point, or at least 1 Point:

- Cobra Strike - mor points, more leech
- Claw mastery
- Cloak of Shadows
- Mind Blast
- Fade - more points great for def
- Weapon Block, more points great for def

For the playstyle and NHD

The NHD issue regards only the missile Attacks, not the skills itself, which will affect:

- CoT Nova
- CoT Charged Bolts
- PS Chain Lightning
- PS Ice Bolts

The first CoT Charge is not affected by NHD, so on paper, it would be better to just charge PS to 3 and CoT to 1.
Practically it's kind of not really measurable, how the NHD interfere with the attacks, because you cant really get, which attack hits first and how the other attack hits.

Imho you could just charge 3 PS / 3 CoT / 3 Boi / 3 Cobra Strike and wreck, since you cant really measure the NHD. So the dmg should be still the best with it.

The Leech from CS is so great and with fade on and also more points into weapon block, you are defensively super stable.

Only Situation, i got some minor problems, were ubers, where I had to take some rejuvs.

So just charge up all Skills, and release them with Dtalon.

I usually just use BoS, insterad of fade, besides Ubers, but fade would be the meta.

Hmm interesting. This seems to be the consensus. I’m still not totally convinced d tail wouldn’t wreck since all of tiger strike damage is spread in the air as half physical and half fire damage. The Ed on maxed tiger strike is absolutely insane. You can also go this route without sacrificing any lightning damage and you can use 1 pt lvl 3 blades of ice for crowd control if you want as well. So you get massive physical, fire and light damage and you don’t spam your screen as much due to fewer more powerful procs.

I’ll give them a test and report back in after the reset

Ty for input guys I appreciate it!

Will be interested in your results

I played TS/Dtail pre Mosaic and pre sunder charms.
I did some testing with sunder charms as well, when they came out, but even with them and Infy, the DMG output against Phys and fire resist monsters wasn't great. And since there are a lot of fire and Phys immunes, it was kind of hard, although I enjoyed the Playstyle before mosaic

I didn't test it with mosaic, but yeah, since you got all the other damage sources, I guess it won't matter that much.

Mosaic sin just wrecks, with its pure DMG output, using different DMG types and will as well do it with TS/Dtail.

Only thing I'm concerned is the leech with cobra strike, since you will deal less Phys DMG.

I think with the maxed tiger strike you’ll actually deal a lot more Phys damage. Not sure if it procs cobra strike on multiple enemies due to the aoe but if it does that would make the heal pretty insane I think

So I tested the tiger strike/ dtail combo and it was pretty bad for a couple of reasons.

1) dtail is buggy as hell and will often get stuck in animation if you try to use it multiple times, not pricing explosions

2) fire immunes and physical resistance are rampant

3) the dtail aoe is smallish and knocks enemies back, potentially knocking them out of range.

If they fixed the dtail bugs and you used reapers for decrep with lvl 3 claws of ice to freeze enemies in place so they don’t get knocked back it could be a viable build especially if the current meta build gets nerfed.

I was doing around 130k kick damage with dtail which could go up higher with auras etc.

Also just a small note on the current meta build mentioned above. I think it’s best to go 102 fcr since you won’t be needing more ias or + skills in the build. You 1 shot pretty much everything and are only bottlenecked on speed by your teleport speed.

Ty for all input fellas. You were correct ofc!

Pure Dtail/TS = you need lawbringer or lacerator to hit hard, along with fire sunder

Yes or reapers. And don’t think fire sunder will do much since you won’t have much in the way of -res since you won’t have infinity merc etc

Lol
You late to the party as well?
I mostly followed this one:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=99869982&f=87