Hi,

I used to run Pindleskin on Single Player D2 LoD 1.09 with a Blizzard Sorceress on /players 8.
Her equipment was as follows:
- Harlequin Crest
- Oculus
- Lidless Wall
- Skullder's Ire
- Chance Guards
- War Traveler
- Goldwrap
- 2x Nagelring
- Mara's Kaleidoscope

I hear that this strategy is no longer viable, but as I just started playing, and have no way of testing this myself (I don't have those items), I was hoping maybe someone out there could explain to me how the above build is no longer viable. I understand that the addition of the Cold Rupture Charm might have a part in this, or that perhaps playing 3 games a minute might somehow lock me out from creating games(?), but I have no good theories. As said, I'm not sure of the mechanics in D2R.

Could anyone enlighten me? Thanks.

This post was edited by Oakenbeard on Mar 23 2023 07:20am

you played a blizz sorc in .09? wow that was rare. well not using an enigma on everything goes against the orthodoxy here so take that with a grain of salt. other than that all i can tell you is that i haven't had any luck with pindle in d2r.

Indeed. Level 96 with Blizzard/Firewall and one point in Thunderstorm, but only the Blizzard was ever used for Pindleskin. The best he ever dropped me was a perfect Windforce.

If I still want to run Pindleskin today, would you think the above gear would be worth aiming for?
And if Pindleskin is no longer the go-to, what would be recommended for someone like me, used to the old-school mechanics of grinding solo runs on repeat?

well you don't have much dr or block with that set up. pindle and gang hit harder than they use to. there isn't much room to move either. you need to run pindle with something tanker imo. a hammerdin or foh could pull that gear off for pindle. lose lidless and use a spirit for a pally though. a new blizzard sorc you could use that mf gear anywhere that you have room to teleport away. cows maybe. occy might get you killed though. i'd switch it out. hoto or wiz spike, doom or death fathom are more expensive options.

This post was edited by L8knightResurrected on Mar 23 2023 08:52am

Pindlefarming is a thing of the past for the first simple bots. run in a straight line, kill the boss, next game, rinse and repeat. chance for a decent drop were low, but a bot could try unlimited times.

If u want to mf by yourself, look for the tc 85- areas with golden chests, which may drop high runes as well. the spider tomb right next to the first wp in a3 might be the place u r looking for as a blizzard sorc. no cold immunes and spiders aren't known for charging in like pindle.

u might as well consiider farming super chests in public games in lower kurast (hr's up to ber are possible)

or simply killing nihlathak. go in, drop blizzard, either nihlathak is cold immune or dead. since his mobs are cold immune, u wont hve to fear his corpse explosions.

next thing is: u have too much mf. if u kill baal hell for instance, u will get 1 maras out of 7900 runs. with 150 mf, u will need 4100 runs on average, with 250 it is 1: 3500, 300 mf means 3350 and 350 mf has a ratio 1 : 3250. so u r sacrificing way too much killspeed for a marginal better drop chance, the sweet spot is regarded as somewhere in between 250 and 300.

reduce ur mf items to skullers (120 mf) harle (50 mf ) occu (50 mf) and gheeds charm. a spirit shield is way too strong, lidless with maek is a thing for a budget java.

Thanks for the info. True. My Sorc never got hit, never needed any DR. Each run took about 15 seconds, a cold immune Pindle would be a save and exit. I'd rather not switch to another class, but I could definitely re-spec her for something other than Blizzard if there are better places to MF than Pindle today.



Yes, Pindlerunning is really easy. Farming for super chests was never for me, and although the map stayed the same in single player, I wouldn't like the random maps each time now that I'm playing online. Nihlatak is also too intense for me.

So, Pindlekin seems to be out of the question here. How about Mephisto, is spamming Blizzard or Meteor on him from across the river still a thing?

This post was edited by Oakenbeard on Mar 23 2023 09:41am

current things are golden chests ( not urs, i got it!) cows in the early days -before palas and javas start to shine-, and terror zones like tombs / tc 85 areas when terror zones are bad.

TZ are new to me, I really like the concept. Cows were amazing in the early days of D2, I'll be happy if it's anything like that. What Sorceress MF build would you suggest for cow running today?

cow needs no mf at all, since u r aiming for sockatables and high runes. squeeze out as much damage as u can, so ormus with cold damage (blizzard would be ideal but expensive) / nightwings (3 cold circ) / 2x spirit or better / 2x bk (cheaper then soj) / 3 cold amu / snow clash belt.
keep in mind that cows is for the ladder start only, right now u r too inferior to any java / auradin.

dont forget these new sunder great charms ;-)

later on, if ur equip is decent, switch to frost nova or nova while doing terror zones. teleport from rare mob to rare mob, leave the rest alive.

setup for nova / life: sunder light, griffons, crescent moon, spirit shield, arach, magefist, 2 sorc 10 fcr amu, 2x bk, skullder (enigma later on). hybrids with 2-3x tal ( amu, armour, orb, in that order) exist. important is the 105 fcr- cap. high dps variants for multiplayers with nova ormus do exist.

setup for ice nova: alibaba "ist ist" / skullders / spirit shield / arach / magefist / circ: cold skills + 20 fcr / amu : sorc + 10 fcr / 2x bk. high dps- variants with death fathom + nightwings and eventually ice nova ormus do exist.

since u need a lot of strength for the spirit shield, an ethereal upped skullders is a viable option for u.