Quote (Gullsama @ Jun 23 2021 11:17pm)

ok so you are only advocating hybrid runewords that were made unlegimately? m8 just ask blizz if they will implement items based on exploits as proper runewords cuz 0.00001% of the player base wants it

and to answer why they are OP.

Highlord 08, got revamped, not an item thats supposed to be in the game except old versions

bug tal

bug

they were remade for a reason, thats why they arent dropping. they got reworked.

Quote (gel87 @ Jun 23 2021 11:13pm)

Oki, explain me how theese are op?
Highlord 08
Bug tal
?

Highlord 08 is only better than its newer version on shapers or on barbs that actually run a valk 08 as well.

Bug tal sucks on every build except sorc, but is usually beaten by enigma anyway, espesially when the new realms would not flood with 2/20/massive str/adds ammu and diadems and such. It does however make troll builds like dream bear pala and foh'er better.

So how would this be any kind of u fair? If theese items was able to drop in the game, and hybrid runewords could be made with ingeadiences in a legit manner:
- bt
- bb
- valk 08
- inferno 08
- highlord 08
- snatchi gloves
- atma boots

Call them whatever u want, theese items are not op, with the exception of bb.
- eni > bt
- bb > all, but some builds needs arach
- valk 08 is good on sins, and usable by barn. But coa and good diadems are better on most chars.
- inferno 08 are better than hots, but not inzane item.
- current hl > hl08 on all chars except shapers
- snatchi gloves are niche item, most chars dont need them. Its not an op item.
- atma boots: a good crafted mana boots beats them quite a bit by stats, and atma boots has no frw, so is a niche build.

Wiz gloves would be OP, due to the fact it allows all kind of bm builds like doom/passion hammers/necros, max block full fcr druids with godly stats, 105fcr bvc's and such. I personally like the item, but i would agree this May shift the balance on any realm.


Lets say u needed 2-3 super rare ingreadiences to cube together with a runeword to make a hybrid one. Ofc there would need to be different types of Ingeadiences. Or maby if you needed to make a hybrid rw you would cube it with a ingredience or 2 which removed the runes and the effect and left the rw inside, then u could put a new runeword in it. If people put anything else than a real rw it would poof/get deleted.

This would be a nice way to keep old people, who are like me.

Quote (alzheimertib2 @ Jun 29 2021 01:31am)

no offence but thats why i allways prefered ladder.
it isnt even about items beings op , it's more theses items were already gatekeeping new/poor player to play pvp seriously.
the entry fee( i mean the time investement ) to enter pvp was too high on nl and they were some items , you just couldn't get.
if you can't drop an item normally on this patch , it shouldnt exist.
i dont even imagine someone who want to start fresh to play pvp on bnet now.

personnally i dont care about items. i will use your metaphor. i dont mindusing a shit car if i race against shit car. your char is shit compared to other.

i will buy D2R but i am sure i will have the shittiest gear possible. i wont have time to play thats much. i will just play with pvp with poor guys like
me.

give new player a chance to compete, i will make a bold statement: after a year the best player will be a player thats never played D2 before ressurected

Quote (gel87 @ Jun 29 2021 07:25am)

I see ur point :)

I just think if those items could drop (for everyone) it would be more interesting :)