just read, be careful

official forum:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1304476

this guy:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=44826

tons kills like this:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6279368

check his kills and time between kills, systems


u cant see him in local chat before he begin to scramb u and defeat

I'd be _VERY_ skeptical that there is an exploit involved here.... You'd be surprised how fast directional scan can yield which belt your in, that combined with a bit of luck and fast ships and experience and this is entirely possible. They're using very fast ships, the Machariel is a very very fast battleship, there is no reason these kills CAN'T be legit. Any bug that would allow you to not be seen in local to survive this long without devs finding out would be.. unlikely.

I've seen first hand how fast a very talented and experienced directional scanner can find a target...

no i dont

i said about immediate appearance in space near ur ship

for example:

luck? i dont think so, check killboard, u can find a lot of this

he kills a lot of bots (ravens) btw.. how much u killed bots?

thread on eve-ru about this guy
http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?showtopic=43109

"Immediate appearance" is just slang for "I wasn't paying attention very closely"

You sorta go into a haze after a while of ratting...

Now if these was scannable sites that are recently spawned hes appearing at within 10 seconds, I'd say exploit, but if they're regular belts in a system, perfectly doable.

Whats strange about those times, first one was at 13:41 in E0DR-G then 1 minute later a kill in the SAME system, then 9 minutes later a kill in 0B-VOJ which is 1 jump away? The guy in 0B-VOJ was CLEARLY not paying attention to intel channels if 9 minutes previously two guys in the same alliance got popped 1 jump away.

You're acting like this is unusual, this is perfectly normal 0.0 combat. Nothing here makes me think exploit what so ever.

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_pilot.php?id=The%20Monkeysphere&start_ship=1&end_ship=1000&type=kills&start=110

raven-botskills
2010-02-03 02:59:00 System: 4J9-DK
2010-02-03 09:53:00 System: S-DLKC
2010-02-03 10:36:00 System: WBLF-0
2010-02-03 10:42:00 System: RRWI-5
2010-02-03 10:58:00 System: QCKK-T
2010-02-03 13:50:00 System: I-3FET
2010-02-03 14:02:00 System: EAWE-2
2010-02-03 15:57:00 System: Y-4U62
2010-02-03 16:08:00 System: RRWI-5
2010-02-03 16:17:00 System: WBLF-0
2010-02-03 19:28:00 System: S-DLKC

to kill bot is very hard; bot warp out immediately, if someone appears in local.. and u cant catch it with standart devices and ways

or they was very stupid carebears, but i know, that it were bots


may be, anyway, i hate botters and killing-fair-play-game exploits

people told about the sudden appearance in space, they arent newbs or somebody else.. minimum time between appearance in local and in space in belt near you is ~10secs min, its enought for warp to spot, not immediately

follow the news

ps i play in a 0.0, red, btw
pps apologize for my bad eng

This post was edited by Qadafi on Apr 20 2010 01:31am

What makes you think these are bots, this is Stain, an npc region, carebear r us.... it's ENTIRELY possible these are almost all players...

And for the record, i've killed plenty of bots, they're just usually fast at initiating warp to a safe spot then a real player is.. but so long as you can pinpoint their location and get to them before they can enter warp... you catch them... not as hard as you might think. Although the "good" ones pick systems that are very hard to pinpoint their location in... (like 1 planet with 50 belts and they only rat in those 50 belts on that planet or something).

2010-02-03 02:59:00 System: 4J9-DK
2010-02-03 09:53:00 System: S-DLKC (7 hours 6 min)
2010-02-03 10:36:00 System: WBLF-0 (43 mins)
2010-02-03 10:42:00 System: RRWI-5 (6 mins)
2010-02-03 10:58:00 System: QCKK-T (16 mins)
2010-02-03 13:50:00 System: I-3FET (3 hours 2 mins)
2010-02-03 14:02:00 System: EAWE-2 (12 mins)
2010-02-03 15:57:00 System: Y-4U62 (1 hour 55min)
2010-02-03 16:08:00 System: RRWI-5 (11 mins)
2010-02-03 16:17:00 System: WBLF-0 (9 mins)
2010-02-03 19:28:00 System: S-DLKC (3 hours 11 min)


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/route/4J9-DK:S-DLKC:WBLF-0:RRWI-5:QCKK-T:I-3FET:EAWE-2:Y-4U62:RRWI-5:WBLF-0:S-DLKC

Those kills are all well spaced apart, and if you look on the map those systems are very close together....

Still don't see your point... hes good, yes, cheating, probably not.

because I know whose bots

raven warp out time more, then inter jump to system, warp to belt and catch this raven.. another way - logoff then login in belt with bot, or make tons of bubles on belts, never try

a lot of people told about it, including my friends

for 3 days we got more then 45 pages discussion about this guy and exploit
http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?s=be6b3fe1a45b63be824b4dc74d58e3a6&showtopic=43109

coz its not simple exploits like warp-logoff exploits


i hope so, but i dont think so right now

more proofs will be i think

tell him to come kill the terminator his name is qvq

some proofs

victim's fraps
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1004/victim.avi


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/evildementia/w9cpav.jpg

bug is reproduced
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/evildementia/russkies_do_it_again.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/evildementia/clean.jpg
he got it
http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?showtopic=43109&st=940&p=883388&#entry883388

topic, official forum
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1304476&page=11#308