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May 22 2009 02:46pm
Quote (Struyk @ Fri, May 22 2009, 04:07am)
[Raven, Ownage]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5



Costs only 150m!, 130m if you remove the rigs! ( which is only 30m loss when u lose the shop :O, olmost nothing if someone gives your loot back! )



Few excamples:

Raven with 2 target painters VS:
Armageddon: 900dps
Myrmidon: 650dps
Harpy: 150dps
Thorax: 250dps

Raven without target painters VS:
Armageddon: 580dps ( FOR LEGIT1: 900 / 580 x 100 = 155% damage increase!!!!!!! )
Myrmidon: 430dps
Harpy: 150dps
Thorax: 190dps

You'll be aiming to kill bs's and bc's in fleet battles, so it helps ALOT!


depite what u think about it increasing dmg it doesnt.
all it is allowing u to do is get more dmg potential out or ur torps limited to ur max dmg potential. ur dps doesnt go up. ur dps is down due to resistances and with target painters making the target larger ur able to gain back some of the loss dmg. end result u do a little more dmg because ur target is bigger... not increasing ur dps but helping it get to ur max dmg potntial. again i say this..... U R A MORON
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May 22 2009 04:26pm
Quote (Struyk @ Fri, May 22 2009, 12:08pm)
How can u fight from 190km away? Only my sniper ships can do that :O ( I mean FW battles btw )

Caldari olmost won FW btw, we're capturing the last 8 systems as we speak :) Shooting bunker now


In 0.0 sniper fleets are the only subcapital "fleets." Everything else is just a gang. Never done FW thoguh.
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May 23 2009 02:18am
Quote (Legit1 @ Fri, May 22 2009, 10:46pm)
depite what u think about it increasing dmg it doesnt.
all it is allowing u to do is get more dmg potential out or ur torps limited to ur max dmg potential. ur dps doesnt go up. ur dps is down due to resistances and with target painters making the target larger ur able to gain back some of the loss dmg. end result u do a little more dmg because ur target is bigger... not increasing ur dps but helping it get to ur max dmg potntial. again i say this..... U R A MORON


I can't make it more easier then this lol...

We were shooting the bunkey yesterday, I was in my manticore.
I shot the bunker first, nobody was there yet, didn't activate my target painters yet.
1100dmg
Rest of the fleet came in, we all activated our target painters ( about 30? 5 is max i think rest doesn't stack )
2000dmg

2000/1100x100% = 181% damage increase
8 second cycle:
2000dmg/8s= 140dps
1100dmg/8s= 250dps
250dps/140dpsx100% = again 181% dps increase


I know this is what you mean:
I was shooting a raven with 0% explosion resist and max size ( because he was fully rigged and had large shield extenders, 5k dmg, target painters won't increase this amount because it's the best my torps can do. )


Still I only fit target painters to help my whole fleet target the enemy faster ( especially for the slow targeting ships ) + to help them increase their damage against ships smaller then their guns/missiles sig/explosion radius. I always look at the EFT damage graph and it shows it helps alot, even more then a BCU!


PS: They really should fix the desync... Yesterday: http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=117457, couldn't target anything, couldn't move, couldn't activate my modules, couldn't hear anyone on eve voice.... Enemy had the same problem, it showed I got on a myrmidon kill but thats it, didn't even see that I targeted it... Oyeah, they had more people then us but they split up badly and they died so fast that they told them not to come and help them or they would've died too... ( said our spy :D )
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