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e: just because of random QQ's saying my ship died trying to take on too high of a mission.

This post was edited by Arcolithe on May 28 2011 09:52pm

For one vagabond pilots shouldnt be that stupid (and if you are dont fly a vaga)

curses are great yeah i'll admit that but imo they are easy ships to cross train to without needing gayo lasers and id rather fly a huginn

also ham legions can be a laugh but imo lokis arent just buffed vagas at all you can fit a mean armor tank on them

minmatar ships are way better for beginners rupture? need i say more

versatility with fittings (shield/armor) allow for really interesting fights and also lead to cross training being easier

guns dont use cap

the zealot is great yeah but i cant stand slow ass ships also if we are gonna argue on singular ships then drake> even though i hate that as much as the next guy

id say they are the most versatile race. they arent just lock - activate mods


EDIT: also you cant disagree with dram/cyna/mach being really awesome ships

This post was edited by Ultimatetraderr on May 30 2011 10:46am

My domi rapes at PvE. I can easily go into most L4's and then go out to eat, come back and it will be done. Cross training Amarr and Minnie for easier wspace atm. When I get into higher levels of wh gallente will come in hand again too with my carrier training. While i realize you didn't say cap this is still an important thing to realize for long term players.

Finally Aceing every single Level 2 Agent Mission! No Sweat!
It's a big achievement for me!

Congrats man!

That's the thing with vagabonds, they aren't actually that good when flown against another competent pilot. They can literally only successfully take on things from t1 cruisers and below, they can't take a drake by itself without it missioning because of it's retarded shields, and a friend would come by that time, they can't take on a hurricane because a hurricane can overheat and actually win, they can't take on a harbinger because of the insane armor bonus, Zealots eat vagabonds, huginn would make a vagabond shit it's pants, a curse would render it fucking useless, but it can take on most t2 frigates and t1 cruisers.

You'll still need artillery and autocannons for the minmatar, which is the same train length. The uses for guns can vary depending on how you fly your ship. Scorch ammo for lasers is one of the best right now, high damage and a good range. Things melt in scorch range. Huginns are cool to use though.

Sure you could fit armor tank on a loki, it's still garbage.

Yes minmatar has the easiest ships to train into I'll give you that, and I do love ruptures and hurricanes.

The only two ships that Minmatar has that have any versatility for fitting are hurricanes and loki's, all the rest benefits from being shield tanked (thus should be shield tanked), while amarr ships are all armor tanked.

Lot's of PvE maelstrom fits have to use cap boosters to keep their modules going, that's what amarr does with certain ships. Armageddons have a slot for cap boosters and eat them to keep everything up, making their modules in PvP last far longer than anything else (unless a curse is eating their cap like no tomorrow)

Skipping the rest and commenting on dram/cyn/mach. Yes they are geat ships (with the dram being slightly overpowered), but cynns and machs make you juicy targets for friends and foes, since a good fitted mach is about the same price as a Capital ship (and you literally have to fit these to not lose it, with faction mods and everything). I personally like the Bhlagorn which would get the mach a run for it's money unless the mach got to close.

I've started with a gallente toon, in terms of PVE the dominix is a really good ship to start lvl 4 with. There are few ships that can tank lvl4s with whole room aggro with only few months of skilling (~~2) and cap stable with dual reps II and 4hardeners, it just lacks a bit of dps.
imo he shouldn't start cross training and focus on gallente for now, he will have plenty of time to train other races later.
the ishtar and ishkur are not only good at pve they can be powerful at pvp too , same for myrmidon and taranis.
What I don't like with gallente is the low range of blasters...

So what would be a good starting fit to go for in dominix?

Alright so, figured I'm going to go PVE myrmidon, get my drone skills up there, as well as tanking skills, will take around 5 days to train for the ship, maybe 2 months for the skills.

After that, hopefully I'd have enough to buy a Dominix, and swap between Myrmidon and Dominix till I figure I've mastered the Dominix, then start mastering the art of L4 mission rushing.

e: using these guidelines, with a bit of modifications
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/42207-myrmidon-pve-very-low-sp.html

Dominix down here,



This post was edited by Arcolithe on Jun 2 2011 08:05pm

I dont like it. 2 guns: nearly useless + sucks cap for nothing
drone navigation computer, useless, you'd be better with an omnidirectional link computer.
Remote reppers, will suck ur cap,will make u lock ur drones to repair them
with another fit you can manage whole room aggro and afk in most missions

[Dominix, pve]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Civilian Light Electron Blaster, Civilian Blaster Charge
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5



cap stable depending on your skills
activate tank modules, warp in, take aggro with the small gun, turn it off, launch drones, afk (not in all missions ofc )

no ab for cap stability, an ab is not an obligation.
switch drones, hardeners according to the NPC you face (more info:) http://www.ogrank.com/content/view/698/59/

positive points:
_between 800 to 1K dps tank according to the faction you are facing ( still be careful with some angel missions)
_you're at work? np take a 10min break to start the mission and go back to work u lazy boy!

negative points:
_needs good drones skills in order to have a medium dps ( be ready to spend 2-3months on drones )
_the dps
this is a good fit to start lvl 4s imo, minimized/nearly no risk of loosing your ship if you do things right.

mission reports: http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReportsLevel4

This post was edited by unid_element59 on Jun 3 2011 06:14pm