Gallente is boss lol

Alliance tournaments/tournaments in general always use gallente.

Picking a race to focus on just depends on what you have in mind.

Gallente are solid group pvpers, able to nuke down targets with ease and still be bulky enough to tank.

[QUOTE=I have never heard someone saying "man you have to try out the Vexor, that thing is sooo op!" :).[/QUOTE]

Oh but it is you can squeeze 900 dps out of that thing as of right now

[QUOTE=nwccfhmello,27 May 2013 11:54][QUOTE=I have never heard someone saying "man you have to try out the Vexor, that thing is sooo op!" :).[/QUOTE]

Oh but it is you can squeeze 900 dps out of that thing as of right now[/QUOTE]

dps on paper is not everything, you have to be able to apply it as well.

But we agree all on that other races probably are an easier start for PVE then Gallente, right?

This thread should be mainly about what is best for beginners

For PvE gallente rather sucks so yes.

For PvP however, I'd say it is the other way around. The main tactic with gallente is to simply fly your ship up their face and shove the guns up their nose. This is very easy, everyone can fit 1x mwd, 1x scrambler and hit approach. The most difficult PvP race is probably minmatar and the odyssey patch will make it even harder since they are nerfing the falloff and optimal bonus on tracking enhancers by 30%, forcing minmatar nano ships closer to scram range or gimping their damage even further by replacing 1 more gyro with a tracking enhancer.

[QUOTE=ChiLLon,May 27 2013 05:55am][QUOTE=nwccfhmello,27 May 2013 11:54][QUOTE=I have never heard someone saying "man you have to try out the Vexor, that thing is sooo op!" :).[/QUOTE]

Oh but it is you can squeeze 900 dps out of that thing as of right now[/QUOTE]

dps on paper is not everything, you have to be able to apply it as well.[/QUOTE]

Yea, I've been in a few roam fleets where we have applied it. Was pretty fun. I run every once in a while with the CAS guys in RF-GGF. When they are done for the day they suicide goonswarm. If I remember correctly they destroyed over 7 billion worth of goons ships to their 1 billion in t1 ships.

[QUOTE=Socksdryer,May 27 2013 09:08am]But we agree all on that other races probably are an easier start for PVE then Gallente, right?

This thread should be mainly about what is best for beginners :)[/QUOTE]

I guess I'm just partial to Gallente because thats who I started with and I didn't seem to have any problems. I'm starting to expand out to other faction ships though right now. I'm going for a Tengu/Nighthawk right now. I'm wanting to try to passive shield tank lvl 5s.

I wouldn't say gallente sucks for pve, but it definitely is one of the harder races to start as.
I would probably say amarr is the worst, unless you are pve'ing a certain group so that you are in their resistance hole.

Gallente might be hard to start off with for pve, but its a great race to start with pvp. And if you know how to make isk in an alternative way to pve, then you will be more than fine.

Requesting this as a sticky thread

I have edited an old Open Office Excel sheet i got.

It contains the hourly gains of Mining Ore/Ice/Mercoxit with 100% Refining. It helps to identify the most valuable Ores/Ice at the moment and how much you get by mining it.

You just have to edit your hourly yield and the mineral prices and you get exact numbers.

http://netload.in/dateiV50tzThE2v/Mining.ods.htm

I have already implemented the new content of 0.0 Ore for Odyssey and the Mineral/Isotope Prices are taken from Jita Buyorders of today (30.05.2013)

Fly save!

(doublepost, i hope this is okay in a guide)

As the Caldari ships have gone way up in prices i wanted to post an alternative to the Scorpion navy (as this alone costs ~400 mil nowadays)

With the new med slot for the Raven this ship has become way stronger.
Here is the Fitting:

[Raven, RavenZyglon]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Booster II
'Stalwart' Particle Field Magnifier
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hammerhead I x5
Hobgoblin I x5


This has 1300 sustained DPS tank with the anc-shield booster alone, which is way more then you need for lvl 4 missions. You can turn on the large booster when the Anc Shield booster reloads (cap lasts over 2 minutes). If you dont need the Large booster because you reload only when the enemy is really thinned out, you can replace that by another stalwart, and use even less cap boosters. 1600 dps burst tank with both running.
This is fit atm vs. serpentis, and so are the tank numbers.

The damage with the min skills i provide will be 471 dps with drones, and you eat cruisers alive because of the rigor rigs and the Target Painter. You can of course upgrade this heavily by factioning out some parts, getting tech II drones and improving your skills. (the damage with all lvl 5 skills is 650 dps with hammerhead I)

and all this while this fitting costs atm ~250 mil.


The Min-Skills:

Spaceship Command IV
Caldari Frigate III
Caldari Destroyer I
Caldari Destroyer II
Caldari Destroyer III
Caldari Cruiser I
Caldari Cruiser II
Caldari Cruiser III
Caldari Battlecruiser I
Caldari Battlecruiser II
Caldari Battlecruiser III
Caldari Battleship I
Hull Upgrades I
Hull Upgrades II
Hull Upgrades III
Hull Upgrades IV
Weapon Upgrades I
Weapon Upgrades II
Weapon Upgrades III
Weapon Upgrades IV
Tactical Shield Manipulation I
Tactical Shield Manipulation II
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Shield Management I
Shield Operation III
Shield Operation IV
Target Painting I
Missile Launcher Operation I
Missile Launcher Operation II
Missile Launcher Operation III
Missile Launcher Operation IV
Missile Launcher Operation V
Light Missiles I
Light Missiles II
Light Missiles III
Heavy Missiles I
Heavy Missiles II
Heavy Missiles III
Cruise Missiles I
Mechanics III
Jury Rigging I
Jury Rigging II
Jury Rigging III
Launcher Rigging I
Electronics IV
Electronics V
Drones I
Drones II
Drones III
Drones IV
Drones V
Caldari Battleship II
Caldari Battleship III
Shield Management II
Shield Management III
Cruise Missiles II
Cruise Missiles III
Drone Interfacing I
Drone Interfacing II
Drone Interfacing III
Scout Drone Operation I
Scout Drone Operation II
Scout Drone Operation III
Combat Drone Operation I
Combat Drone Operation II
Combat Drone Operation III
Warhead Upgrades I
Warhead Upgrades II
Warhead Upgrades III
Target Navigation Prediction I
Target Navigation Prediction II
Target Navigation Prediction III
Missile Projection I
Missile Projection II
Missile Projection III
Guided Missile Precision I
Guided Missile Precision II
Guided Missile Precision III


A total training time of 39 days and 10 hours without implants, 34d 7h with +3 implants (charisma not needed)


EFT Damage Profiles:

When planning PVE Ships you should always check the exact tank vs. certain enemys. This helps ofc greatly to optimize your ship. 400 dps is a mere minimum for flying the easier lvl 4 missions, but i would suggest more like ~600 dps if you have no experience with them or dont use a speed tank / long range kiting ship.

Open your EFT Folder -> open config.ini -> paste this at the bottom:

DamageProfile=Gurista,0,570,3504,0
DamageProfile=Angel,480,0,719,3058
DamageProfile=Sansha,1945,1598,0,0
DamageProfile=Serpentis,0,1627,1320,0
DamageProfile=Blood raider,613,570,60,0
DamageProfile=Gallente federation,25,781,1127,0
DamageProfile=Minmatar republic,615,310,815,1633
DamageProfile=Amarr empire,1204,1349,0,0
DamageProfile=Caldari state,0,795,944,0
DamageProfile=EoM,0,618,1718,0
DamageProfile=Mercenaries,90,634,424,108
DamageProfile=Rogue Drones,86,91,281,964


Now, when you rightclick on the shield symbol of "Defense" at the middle right of the ship window, you can choose the enemy faction and you get exact numbers of you tank against them. If you click edit custom profiles you can view the damage typ distribution of the factions.


Salvaging:

As many mentioned before it is very easy to increase your income by salvaging lvl 4 missions. For that you should use a noctis.

Fitting:

[Noctis, wrecker]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II

Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Salvage Tackle I
Medium Salvage Tackle I
Medium Salvage Tackle I

Ths fit costs about 100 mil, but you have this much isk back in less then 4 big lvl 4 missions.

To salvage set a bookmark one one wreck at every room. Complete the mission and get your rewrd at the agent. Now you can switch to your noctis and salvage at every bookmark all the precious battleships.

Skills:

ORE Industrial I
Mechanics III
Survey I
Survey II
Survey III
Salvaging I
Hull Upgrades I
Hull Upgrades II
Afterburner I
Energy Grid Upgrades I
Energy Grid Upgrades II
Energy Grid Upgrades III
Jury Rigging I
Jury Rigging II
Jury Rigging III
Armor Rigging I
Salvaging II
Salvaging III
ORE Industrial II
ORE Industrial III

2d 11h skills time, 2d 4h with +3 implants.

Fly safe!

This post was edited by Socksdryer on Jun 6 2013 03:51am