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Essence Isenan X - Moon 7 - Federal Intelligence Office Testing Facilities (0.3) ?
(Station) 15.00 5,340,334 2009-08-02 05-17 13:32:30


Don't sell for 4.1, sell for 15!
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Quote (Struyk @ Tue, May 19 2009, 09:35am)
Mine bistot in 0.0 and earn 80m an hour, 200m an hour if your gonna make caps but theres alot of logistics and other stuff involved like buying bpc's, its best to just mine :)


You really only make about 40-50m/hour mining A/B/C in 0.0. Theoretically you could make 80+m/hour but that's with perfect everything (including deployed rorq pilot with mindlink), which rarely happens when you are mining for yourself.

And frankly where did you get 200m an hour from for cap production? Any kind of production operation is entirely dependent on how much capital you put into it. Are you telling me I'll get 200m/hour from both a 20b investment and a 100b investment?

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u make isks mining i make isks from u mining
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You really only make about 40-50m/hour mining A/B/C in 0.0.  Theoretically you could make 80+m/hour but that's with perfect everything (including deployed rorq pilot with mindlink), which rarely happens when you are mining for yourself.

And frankly where did you get 200m an hour from for cap production?  Any kind of production operation is entirely dependent on how much capital you put into it.  Are you telling me I'll get 200m/hour from both a 20b investment and a 100b investment?


:blink: that much? Raeky and I have three perfect (as in every skill is at 5) mining characters and when we mine in 0.0 we pull in around 100m/hr combined. How are you calculating 50m?
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Essence  Isenan X - Moon 7 - Federal Intelligence Office Testing Facilities (0.3) ?
(Station)  15.00 5,340,334  2009-08-02 05-17 13:32:30


Don't sell for 4.1, sell for 15!


logistics is a bitch

if your willing to get it out there id sell it to you for 8 ;)
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Quote (darkfire @ Tue, May 19 2009, 05:57pm)
:blink: that much?  Raeky and I have three perfect (as in every skill is at 5) mining characters and when we mine in 0.0 we pull in around 100m/hr combined.  How are you calculating 50m?


Average hulk pilot pulls in ~1500m3/min with t2 crystals, 2 MLU II's, no mining bonuses, no drones, or 90k m3 an hour. A/B/C are worth respectively 500/400/300 isk/m3 (using Jita mineral buy prices and perfect refine). Though you should be mining arkonor as much as you can due to the high megacyte prices, say you make 450 isk/m3 on average (taking into account the 10% and 5% ores). This yields 40.5m isk/hour.

Of course, this is theoretical yield, but we also aren't taking into account mining bonuses or drones. Even with Mining Foreman 4 you go from 1500 to 1630m3/min, which raises your hourly income to 44m/hour. If you self-haul with your miner, your yield goes down of course.

The main point wasn't the ~6m difference between what you experience and what the theoretical should be for an average miner, it's that you simply don't make 80m/hour mining bistot (you should be mining arkonor anyways)
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Quote (Chrona @ Wed, May 20 2009, 12:59am)
Average hulk pilot pulls in ~1500m3/min with t2 crystals, 2 MLU II's, no mining bonuses, no drones, or  90k m3 an hour.  A/B/C are worth respectively 500/400/300 isk/m3 (using Jita mineral buy prices and perfect refine).  Though you should be mining arkonor as much as you can due to the high megacyte prices, say you make 450 isk/m3 on average (taking into account the 10% and 5% ores).  This yields 40.5m isk/hour.

Of course, this is theoretical yield, but we also aren't taking into account mining bonuses or drones.  Even with Mining Foreman 4 you go from 1500 to 1630m3/min, which raises your hourly income to 44m/hour.  If you self-haul with your miner, your yield goes down of course.

The main point wasn't the ~6m difference between what you experience and what the theoretical should be for an average miner, it's that you simply don't make 80m/hour mining bistot (you should be mining arkonor anyways)


That's the problem. I've never found 0% tax on a 50% refinery in 0.0 and most alliances boot you if they find out that you're refining in Empire. Anyway, I was just curious if we were screwing something up.
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May 20 2009 02:34am
Build a pos, refine there, make raves/drakes/thorax's etc.

There's not much of a cap investment, I just buy bpc's and some bpo's which im researching to sell later :) 200m profit a month for just researching them, and im researching 8 :)
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Quote (darkfire @ Wed, May 20 2009, 01:16am)
That's the problem.  I've never found 0% tax on a 50% refinery in 0.0 and most alliances boot you if they find out that you're refining in Empire. Anyway, I was just curious if we were screwing something up.


o.O was not aware of that alliance rule. Interesting. I am too used to living in "soft" 0.0 in providence I guess. I usually just freighter/JF what I mine from plexes to empire, which is why I used those figures.
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May 20 2009 05:55am
you cant make 100m/hour anymore from minung unless ur max pimped out and in a big fleet with haulers and perfect boosting (rorqual)

pulling random numbers out of your ass to try and impress people of you knowlage is really dumb, and missleading.

I got a max pimped hulk pilot and a Orca booster, and im not close to 100m hour regardless where i mine or what i mine.

Highsec mining and a good trade alt is the best way to make money with mining, unless u have a decent crew to produce/run a pos (wich cost to much to make good profits on alone)

my hauler is in a obelisk aswell, so i loose 0 time when i mine, yet im not even close to 100m/hour
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