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Jul 22 2008 04:54am
Quote (xX-shuriken-Xx @ Tue, Jul 22 2008, 05:38am)
Wikipedia ? Rofl dude. Not everyone needs to google what they post in forums.

I have a double MBA in Finance and Economics. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe you should do a bit more wikipedia browsing though. Because your only answer to Bretton Woods is : Lol ? That's not an answer, especially when I made my point with it, and I'm acually right, and you can't find any answer to it.

And thank you for proving my point. This is exactly what we're dealing with : A Niche market. This is why there are sub forums for each games, and not a huge trading ground for every game mixed together. Because every game has it's own ratios. Every game has its own subforums because the community obeys to its own set of rules (as well as obeying to the main forum rules, but that's beside the point).

ISK in Eve is harder to come by than Gold in Guild Wars. Because unless you are a farm bot user (in which case I don't even see why you're on this forum, and why we're speaking because thank you for ruining the game), then Isk is made through production, Isk is made thorugh NPC farming in 0.0, etc.

And if you know anything about EVE, which I hope for your sake, and the sake of the fg you've spent in, you do, then you should know that 0.0 is only accessible if you pay big alliances, production is only possible if you have a starting capital.

And we're not talking about producing frigates. We're talking about T2 prod : Say hello to BPO's worth billions. We're talking Carrier/Dread prod : Say hello to Assembly Arrays and POS's in Low Sec (hence security, more ships, more funds needed, etc).
Access to 0.0 only happens if you can pay or have an agreement with one of the major alliances in the game who control all of the 0.0. If you even dare to say otherwise, then you haven't played EVE at all.

ISK making in EVE isn't that easy. And not everyone has $$$ to spend on isk selling sites, or on buying fg from Paul.

HENCE : you can make fg with other games, selling your diablo 2 characters, etc. But THEN, your fg is useless (unless you have Donors Forum access). What happens next ? Someone like me offers 8 Billions of Isk. That's hard cash in EVE. That's enough cash to start 2 networks of 3 POS each for chain reaction, etc.
I have spreadsheets I designed myself, I know what I'm talking about.
The simple fact of everyone needing isk, and the simple fact that without spending $$ and Real Life money, you can get liquid isk in big amounts on this forum, makes isk valued more than fg by those in thi section.

Yes it's a niche, and you either obey to the niche rules, or you suck it up and cry silently.

Enough said now.


If you're going to lie about something at least do it well, because obviously you don't know wtf you are talking about and wikipedia doesn't qualify. Sorry that you are wrong, but you are, not really much else to say, it's common sense, not college level knowledge, and you don't seem to have either.

It doesn't matter if it is harder to make currency in another game than ISK. It doesn't matter at ALL. All that does is change the exchange rate between various games. But since there is no market for direct trades between two completely different games, an intermediary asset, FG, was created. FG applies the same principles as trading items between games, the market is completely free and player driven, and exchange rates vary between all of the games. That's it. It is that simple, and it applies to every single game on here.

This post was edited by Khrushchev on Jul 22 2008 05:03am
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Quote (Khrushchev @ Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 11:54)
If you're going to lie about something at least do it well, because obviously you don't know wtf you are talking about and wikipedia doesn't qualify. Sorry that you are wrong, but you are, not really much else to say, it's common sense, not college level knowledge, and you don't seem to have either.

It doesn't matter if it is harder to make currency in another game than ISK. It doesn't matter at ALL. All that does is change the exchange rate between various games. But since there is no market for direct trades between two completely different games, an intermediary asset, FG, was created. FG applies the same principles as trading items between games, the market is completely free and player driven, and exchange rates vary between all of the games. That's it. It is that simple, and it applies to every single game on here.


Why would I lie about a college degree ? Do you even realize that you're saying the exact same thing that I'm saying ?

Fg is only a tool, or as you call it an "intermediary". Like I said.
Each game has its own subforum and players decide of the rates they want to give it, or as you call it "player driven". Like I said.

Where I disagree is this :

Fg isn't the fixe rate that drives the prices of gold on games, but it's exchange rates that we fix on different games that actually fixes the value of fg, hence making it the value we give it. You joined Jsp in 2007 so you wouldn't know much about this, but Paul's prices for fg have changed and varied a lot over the years, always decreasing in value, always more fg for less dollars. But no, of course wikipedia wouldn't explain that to you.

Don't accuse people of lying when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're blatering things that don't make sense without anything to back them up. You're only trying to get the maximum of isk you can for your fg. Good for you. I'm trying to get the maximum fg I can for my isk.

Shame that isk burns so fast in EVE. Fit a raven for real combat and you're already 250 mil out, with insurance it's even more. So I know you need isk, I know people who play EVE need isk constantly. Stop trying to drive the prices down by trying to explain principles of economics that you obviously have not understood in anyway.
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