ever heard of 08/09 items, bugged items, eth zod glitched, stuff like that ?

the best gear in d2 is far from 100 fg ^^ some items out there are over 15k+ a piece.

That's non ladder junk, it is 100% dupes

Sorry for Breakin in, But there is still perm items from 1.07-9.. Bugged Atmas boots are more than 35k fg and Eth Zodbugged 08 valk is more than 45k fg, but still i doubt that a 2k8 member have such items as perm.

Bugged items are one of a kind. If there is more than one of them, chances are they are not perm

you dont play that much i see.

I don't play non ladder because it is for nubs, I play hardcore ladder only

I'd be awfully suprised if two of the exact same items got bugged in the exact same way without them being duped; also I find it hard to believe that should one of said item exist that nobody has ever used it to dupe, considering the plethora of dupe methods that have existed over the years.

you have your opinions and imaginations about nonladder and so lots of stuff is dupes yes, but a Dupe doesn't always have to be unperm

godly characters in eve are like 90mil skill points which at a BARE MINIMUM is 13.5 billion or $1350 USD, but such a high skilled character probably would easily fetch 30 billion or more isk, so your looking at THOUSANDS of USD, that could easily be over 90,000 FG. Heck a mothership is in the 15-20billion range.

Eve is not like other games, not everyone gets to be uber. Either earn it legitimately over time or buy your way to uber. Not like WoW and other kid games where everyone gets to feel uber.

lol so an adult game is one in which a person doesn't actually have to play to get godly and the best players are the players who have payed for the game longest (and therefore have the most skill points) with actual skill being throw entirely out of the question? Very few people get the uber stuff in WoW, you have to earn it, and your team has to earn it. It's not a kids game.

But the fact that people have 90m skill points makes an 11 mill skill point character even less valuable

There's one guy out there with what, 800 billion isk?

Anyhow, I just want a character that will give me a launching point for EVE so I can play the game with my brother. Unfortunately, there is no way to get ahead in this game; the people who pay for it the longest are the people who are the best / have the best characters, which kind of totally sucks, and is why i'm not going to start new, if at all. The fact that the good, dedicated players in a game like WoW get ahead is not a bad thing at all; the skill system is the one thing that stopped me from getting into EVE when it was newer x-x

All I have to say about D2 items being cheap is this: 6/40 javs.