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Apr 3 2014 01:41pm
Dex increased crit chance?

Now if I pool 15 points into dex on barb or pally does it help the crit chance at all ?

im only doing this in effort to maintain a high crit rate at 50-55 due to the high ee and crit items i have

without pooling anything into dex i was critting like 1 in 6 hits at 55

wondering if it would change the outcome at all
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Apr 4 2014 01:33am
im no pro - an most certainly not on melee chars :D but ..

Quote (Character Building By Utunity - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=51263068&f=74)
Now you may think why you should only go for dexterity?
Well as the last update came out strength has become more than useless if you are buying daggers and axes.
Daggers have a ratio of 90/10 (dexterity/Strength) and axes have a ratio of (50/50)
(this means that no matter what you stat, dexterity or strength) your axe performance will increase by the same and daggers are barely effected by strength.


Quote (official LS help)
Dexterity: Increases the base damage and *critical hit chance for melee weapons by the ratio for that particular weapon.



the weap ratios --> http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3

seems to me that its mainly about the weapon, if its worth or not.

but hopefully there will be someone with actually melee experience :D
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Apr 4 2014 09:31am
Quote (redl14 @ Apr 4 2014 02:33am)
im no pro - an most certainly not on melee chars :D but ..






the weap ratios --> http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3

seems to me that its mainly about the weapon, if its worth or not.

but hopefully there will be someone with actually melee experience :D


Thanks !
Yeah I was just scratching my head about this lol
It does seem that I crit hit more with dex points added than I did on previous climbs I use a sword Idk tho lol
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Apr 5 2014 03:06am
dex doesnt help in this case.
just put all points into the favorited stat of the ratio.
crit chance is depending on the weapon type you use.. so axes crit the most, then swords/staves and then dagger/clubs
this is to balance the ratios:
if you use axes.. you only recieve 50% of the stats as bonus.. if you use dagger, you recieve 90% of all dex..
at the beginning when ratios were introduced the stat inbalance wasnt noticed first.. so you could deal A LOT more dmg with dagger than similar axes..
so the crit chances were modified in favour of axes. (just count your crits using axes and using dagger.. you crit way more with axes)

else you can only improve your crit chance with the mod "+x critical strike"


this is as i understood it.. i dont have the numbers of njaguar.. if i had these i could give you better info ;)
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Apr 5 2014 03:35am
Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Apr 5 2014 04:06am)
dex doesnt help in this case.
just put all points into the favorited stat of the ratio.
crit chance is depending on the weapon type you use.. so axes crit the most, then swords/staves and then dagger/clubs
this is to balance the ratios:
if you use axes.. you only recieve 50% of the stats as bonus.. if you use dagger, you recieve 90% of all dex..
at the beginning when ratios were introduced the stat inbalance wasnt noticed first.. so you could deal A LOT more dmg with dagger than similar axes..
so the crit chances were modified in favour of axes. (just count your crits using axes and using dagger.. you crit way more with axes)

else you can only improve your crit chance with the mod "+x critical strike"


this is as i understood it.. i dont have the numbers of njaguar.. if i had these i could give you better info  ;)


Good enough for me lol
I was toying with the stats here n there and almost seemed like I crit'd more with adding 20 stats to dex as barb than I did on previous climbs altho I was using a sick sword with hi +CS
maybe I just kept having luck on my side lol

Anyway very helpful thanks !
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Good enough for me lol
I was toying with the stats here n there and almost seemed like I crit'd more with adding 20 stats to dex as barb than I did on previous climbs altho I was using a sick sword with hi +CS
maybe I just kept having luck on my side lol

Anyway very helpful thanks !


some also swear that you get more crits if you try to keep the ratio as good as possible..
it is long ago.. but i think i tested it with rogue using axes.. and did pretty much the same dmg when i did 230dex 30str or 130dex 130str..
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Apr 7 2014 07:27pm
Before changes dex did change your crit a lot. Once ratios was added that changed. You can see a small amount of difference over the full climb but it's just luck and monster types you hit. The only way to change it is with adding crit either with gear or glyphs.

I did a small test again.

1-4 200 actions 32 crits 50/50 75str/75dex total damage 14706
1-4 200 actions 20 crits 55str/95dex 14026

That was probably more a product of lucky crits and monster types and a small test pool.
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Apr 7 2014 10:03pm
Quote (PowerTripped @ Apr 7 2014 08:27pm)
Before changes dex did change your crit a lot.  Once ratios was added that changed.  You can see a small amount of difference over the full climb but it's just luck and monster types you hit.  The only way to change it is with adding crit either with gear or glyphs.

I did a small test again.

1-4 200 actions 32 crits 50/50  75str/75dex total damage 14706
1-4 200 actions 20 crits 55str/95dex 14026

That was probably more a product of lucky crits and monster types and a small test pool.


Thanks for the sample size !
Appreciate the words of wisdom!

Now level your pally and lets get monk !
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